PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Prestwich_Blue said:
Interesting debate on here (for a change).

There's two contrasting views, one that the PL entered into this in an entirely fair-handed, non-judgemental way, without any pressure and solely motivated by the desire to uphold the sanctity of their financial framework. The other group believe this is largely politically motivated and that a cabal of US-owned clubs are collaborating to try to derail us.

Re the former belief, there are also people who believe that there's a man with a beard who lives on a cloud and can bring down plagues of locusts, floods, fire & brimstone and turn people into pillars of salt merely by twitching his nose, or finger, or however he does that sort of thing.

The club, on the other hand, is in the latter camp, and I'll repeat what a senior official told me a while ago. That official was close to the group around our owner and this was said while both UEFA and the PL were investigating us. The exact quote was "We know who's behind this. It's the US-owned clubs, plus there's a geopolitical element".

It also wasn't coincidence that Levy's name got mentioned. It's been said that it was him who rang Masters after the CAS verdict to push him into launching the PL's charges, which they did so hurriedly that they got some of those laughably wrong.

Remember what Khaldoon said about knowing who's saying what about us? I doubt that was bluff.
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Does the UAE have a secret service? I hope they gave full support to the agents wiretapping the scousers.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
On the one hand you're agreeing that our enemies have pushed this case but on the other arguing that it's not a conspiracy.

'This' is a few things they've picked up. It's scraps they thought they could make a case out of, and I'm not even sure they were too bothered about it succeeding or not. The main concern was dragging our name through the mud for as long as they could.

The Mancini contract isn't financially material, and will almost certainly be time-barred (and the PL and their lawyers must have known that). The image rights stuff isn't financially material in the overall scheme of things, and UEFA discussed it with us back in 2015 and brought no charges. The sponsorship stuff was thrwon out by CAS and even if they accept that and are going after us because we didn't declare those sponsors as related parties, they were all fair value anyway, so had no impact whatsover on our spending. It's not fraud or grand larceny. It's peanuts and accounting interpretations. There is simply no way a clear-thinking and pragmatic organistion brings these charges without someone pressuring them.

And I've had a second, independent tip-off that the PL will come out of this very badly if and when we ever get to know what transpired.
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I know you've been consistant in the "not material" aspects of the Mancini and other parts of the charges, but there is a glass-half-empty view I have that materiality, whilst important to us accountants, will not stop a guilty verdict and punishment, and the continued "cheat" campaign, even if we only "made" £3.50 out of the whole thing. Which is, of course, part of the reason for the charges in the first place.
 
manimanc said:
Pretty strong worded tweet from Jack Gaughan who is strongly connected with city.
I'm hoping this is the beginning of the end of it all but I'd say it's a pretty strong hint at the outcome.

(Waits for Stefan to come and eeyore all over this post)
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Its sounds a bit optimistic to me that the club just saying they will clear their name is a "pretty strong hint at the outcome". Can't imagine any scenario the club would say anything else before we have even seen a verdict.

With that said, we all hope they are correct.
 
Stoned Rose said:
For me, ‘proper’ reggae is the 60s and 70s (and some early 80s) stuff with that slower, happier, sweeter sound and vibe. Stories about love, nature, spirituality, struggles and of course, the herb. A lot of it sounds live on the record, that innocent rawness to the sound, you can “feel” the music.

Dancehall originated from that vibe but as recording techniques and technology improved, the sound switched to a faster tempo, more “produced” sounding, and much of it not even recorded from real instruments. The topics changed, it became a lot more sexualised, derogatory towards women, glorifying violence and guns, and in some cases, a switch from the herb to cocaine being the underlying inspiration. The vocal style changed from that really rootsy crooning and harmonies to more harshly delivered, “loud talking” (not quite rapping but not far off), but not much actual singing. A more aggressive and macho vibe.

I enjoy both but I much prefer reggae. I can easily do a full day of reggae when I’m working from home. Dancehall, I have to dip in and out and have breaks.
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thanks for the reply.

the sultan was very forthcoming with his wine and my arse hurts
(from the camel not the sultan)

i'll reply in the morrow when i can give it the respect it deserves
 
Claytop said:
Sorry to hear it :( such a horrible decision to have to make.
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thanks, and sorry just for clarity, not even my dog, neighbour, single woman, call centre worker with no vet/pet insurance - dog couldn't even make it/walk to vets and she couldn't lift him. I work from home and so used to go to let him out for a pee every day while she was at work - but his old legs have gone and he was puking 12 out of 24 - still horrible
 
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