Well given Trump's argument that he can't get a fair trial in NY will be seen as hopeless, I don't think there is much mileage for City on the idea that some Twitter commentary has prejudiced the notion of a fair trial in the IC.
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PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules
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Totally agree.Is it irrelevant to the process though? Can that ever really be possible. I don't thnk it can. They are people after all, and have inevitable human reactions to contexts.
A few weeks ago the PL was drawn into having to comment on the case, due to the increased attention as a result of runaway speculation from almost a nothing rumour. The club manage well to resist that.
But it affects the mood, the public opinion, and that surely filters at least in Some way to thise involved. If the PL has to double down, that tone will be felt by their lawyers. If there is speculation of foul play, the commission will likewise have that as a layer around it all.
I understand these are highly robust professionals and I understand that they should he able to filter all that out. But I don't see how the context of the attention and discussion doesn't in some way affect their mood towards it.
There is a reason in serious cases and actual courts, speculation and commenting on cases including online is advised against and strongly discouraged. This is obviously a different level, but I think the same reasoning behind that must surely apply.
Up to now, it's been a trial by media, and we don't usually have, or allow that in this country.
It's been like an American roadshow so far. An absolute disgrace!
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Had an argument with a blue dipper. He said we were not proven innocent at CAS. Time barred "evidence" and everyone knows we cheated.
I paraphrased it for him.
Let's say I call you a nonce but I don't have any evidence of it,
are you a nonce?
He was defo a nonce
Tell him he needs to hand over his hard drive & if he’s got nothing to hide he would do it….
I wish that 20 or 30 years ago I had mastered City’s brilliant technique for deceiving auditors for a decade. Would have saved me a lot of time and effort in finding documentation to support my account submissions and answer all their damn questions. Oh, it was BDO! (or their forerunner) should have been easy.
burning blue soul
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You were in the junior blues from 74 to 08???I know its been said a million times but it struck me this morning reading your comment (as good as it is) that its so far away from conversations ive had since junior blue days ('74) up until '08. You would have no clue that we were talking about sport let alone a football club. It's sad its come to this, it's like reading contracts and docs at work but no consuming our free time as well I miss the Asa Hartford days!!
You young looking, or summat?
I wasn't being specific to that one. I meant all of it. Including yours (and the reaction to it). And Tolmie's. And of course all the multiple opposing takes and (often unfounded) claims.Well given Trump's argument that he can't get a fair trial in NY will be seen as hopeless, I don't think there is much mileage for City on the idea that some Twitter commentary has prejudiced the notion of a fair trial in the IC.
It all creates backdrops that I just don't see how they can be completely ignored. If nothing else, it all creates distractions.
cheekybids
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You were in the junior blues from 74 to 08???
You young looking, or summat?
City’s very own Jlingz…
manimanc
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You nailed it there mate saying it's a trial by media.Totally agree.
Up to now, it's been a trial by media, and we don't usually have, or allow that in this country.
It's been like an American roadshow so far. An absolute disgrace!
That's been exactly it since 2012.
Dunno. Sometimes I have a point I want to make that I think could be useful to some. Of course, I and others could just keep quiet. Not massively sure it matters. The pressure on the IC to find against City will be whether it is prepared to endorse a case theory that City have deceived the auditors for a decade.I wasn't being specific to that one. I meant all of it. Including yours (and the reaction to it). And Tolmie's. And of course all the multiple opposing takes and (often unfounded) claims.
It all creates backdrops that I just don't see how they can be completely ignored. If nothing else, it all creates distractions.
Dunno. Sometimes I have a point I want to make that I think could be useful to some. Of course, I and others could just keep quiet. Not massively sure it matters. The pressure on the IC to find against City will be whether it is prepared to endorse a case theory that City have deceived the auditors for a decade.
I get that. I have welcomed it, certaunly found it both interesting and informative.
Don't think you have understood what I was trying to say, but I'll leave it, it is jot that important.
I think too many people say things way too freely with this. But I guess with nothing there to discourage it, it is inevitable.