PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Fleksnes said:
As a fan of another team, I find this very interesting. But what strikes me after reading a lot of this thread is that there's a lot of blame-game going on here. I've read a lot of blame towards other clubs, the FA and PL, but very few, if any, are talking about the real case and the substance in the accusations. If there's done something wrong, which the enquiry will find out, surely there has to be consequences?
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danielwood5 said:
It's because laws and financial fraud are very different things to the Premier League's self created rules regarding participation in their competitions.
Looking at the charges we've been accused of the first one looks like it's regarding Mancini's time with us and the fact that he was employed by Al Jazira at the same time. As both clubs are owned by Sheikh Mansour the PL are probably saying that his pay for his Al Jazira work was actually a disguised payment for his work with City, therefore, when we told then Mancini was getting paid 'x' amount it was actually 'x + Al Jazira pay'. As long as the Al Jazira accounts show he was being paid by them and all the relevant tax or whatever was being paid then it is of absolutely zero interest to HMRC, the police or anyone else. It could however break the PL rules if they decide that it was a way of paying Mancini more than we declared, this then leads to the accusations of 'true and fair accounts' which in turn affects FFP figures. This is a PL issue rather than a fraud issue.
It will probably be the same with the player payments things, the PL will disagree with some of the figures there which breaks their reporting rules but as long as the money was reported correctly to the various countries involved then they don't care.
With the player salaries stuff it could be something as simple as Coka-Cola paid £1m to the image rights agency for an advert using NYCFC players to be put on the NY subway system. The image rights company said to them if you pay £1.1m we'll let you put De Bruyne's image on there too. This is all perfectly fine and legal and is one of the benefits of selling image rights as part of the CFG rather than as individual clubs, we can negotiate better deals for the clubs and the players involved. We then say that the payment to De Bruyne isn't part of his City wages as he was appearing in an advert for NYCFC rather than MCFC so it wasn't in the Premier League financial statement. They say that's a disguised payment as he plays for MCFC even though the work was to promote NYCFC, the PL says that breaks their rules, we say it didn't. Again, as long as all the money has been declared to the various tax officials of the countries involved it's not a legal problem but it could be a Premier League problem.
These are just examples BTW, I'm just guessing at what the actual issues are but I think it will be petty stuff like this that this whole thing is about. I just wanted to show how there's a huge difference between serious legal breaches and things the Premier League may be fussy about.
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Great post. With regards to Al Jazira I am assuming Bobby Manc/City will be able to demonstrate/evidence that he did in fact undertake some tasks/work for Al Jazira and the PL charge potentially goes away or is very much weakened. It is reasonable to undertake non exec work for a different employer assuming this is the case in this instance. Just a thought.
 
Am I right in thinking that some of the Financial stuff is so severe that realistically HMRC would be knocking on the door for the accounts they have already gone through
 
Lavinda Past said:
The PL is a cesspit. Stuck in the 1990s. Bent from top to bottom.

I believe that history will eventually show that the Super League would have been a better option for the game in the long term.

It would be interesting to see what the 'hateful eight' would have tried to do to City had we been among the original Super League clubs.

Probably nothing.
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At the time I wasn't particularly against a super league as long as had relegation/promotion. It didn't so was flawed but it's clear the white/American people in charge of the clubs campaigning against City have a race agenda.
 
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