PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

It is complicated but the much repeated idea that Churchill caused the famine does not stand up. Some British policies were very poor, eg the ‘denial policy’ In 1943, the supply of grain was only 5% less than the annual average and much greater than the supply in 1941, when there was no famine. Exports to Ceylon continued. Land grabbing, credit restrictions, and the reluctance of those who had grain to sell it were all factors.
The British merchant fleet lost nearly a million tons of shipping and it is doubtful that they could have been effective in delivering in any case. The withdrawal of the fleet and preserving it for other theatres was unavoidable and not a big contributory factor to the famine. “ Churchill ordered the withdrawal of the fleet and so starved 4 million” is just nonsense.
Some Indian sources put the policies down to Churchills racism. The myth was used extensively by organisations agitating for an end to the Raj.
It is easy to pick a guilty party when so many factors contributed to the famine. British colonial civil servants were not particularly efficient or sympathetic to the local population and it is reasonable to put some blame there rather than a war leader several thousand miles away. Note that there was much inter regional rivalry. For eg, the Punjab banned exports of rice to Bengal.
See the Famine Commission report, Amartya Sen and many other sources.

Interesting perhaps, but has absolutely nothing to do with City being charged by the Pl .

Could this to to PM if it is that important to those involved ?
 
Interesting perhaps, but has absolutely nothing to do with City being charged by the Pl .

Could this to to PM if it is that important to those involved ?
Yeah, I got embroiled, sorry. Er…. nothing in this thread for weeks has been other than gossip, so that’s my excuse. Not even Tolmie has info to impart. Their lips are sealed.
 
Yeah, I got embroiled, sorry. Er…. nothing in this thread for weeks has been other than gossip, so that’s my excuse. Not even Tolmie has info to impart. Their lips are sealed.

I get that but everytime the thread is updated I am hoping to find news of it being blown out of the water, and Masters sent before a firing squad :)
 
It is complicated but the much repeated idea that Churchill caused the famine does not stand up. Some British policies were very poor, eg the ‘denial policy’ In 1943, the supply of grain was only 5% less than the annual average and much greater than the supply in 1941, when there was no famine. Exports to Ceylon continued. Land grabbing, credit restrictions, and the reluctance of those who had grain to sell it were all factors.
The British merchant fleet lost nearly a million tons of shipping and it is doubtful that they could have been effective in delivering in any case. The withdrawal of the fleet and preserving it for other theatres was unavoidable and not a big contributory factor to the famine. “ Churchill ordered the withdrawal of the fleet and so starved 4 million” is just nonsense.
Some Indian sources put the policies down to Churchills racism. The myth was used extensively by organisations agitating for an end to the Raj.
It is easy to pick a guilty party when so many factors contributed to the famine. British colonial civil servants were not particularly efficient or sympathetic to the local population and it is reasonable to put some blame there rather than a war leader several thousand miles away. Note that there was much inter regional rivalry. For eg, the Punjab banned exports of rice to Bengal.
See the Famine Commission report, Amartya Sen and many other sources.

We clearly don't agree and never will. You can dismiss whatever you like as "nonsense" as you put it, but the man who described us as "a beastly race" is mainly responsible whatever revisionists may say. Blaming Punjabis is frankly ridiculous especially when Britain ruled over India and brutally so with its "divide and rule" which culminatinated in the catastrophic partitioning of India.

My grandfather, a Bengali, was a civil servant at the time. Some British civil servants were less than sympathetic but generalising about all civil servants is wrong.

I have already read extensively about this and it is clear to me that Churchill was instrumental in the deaths of millions of fellow Indians with his decisions.
 
FFS. Only on Bluemoon can we be accused of genocide and the potato famine in one thread, a thread that relates to Financial Fair Play.
Please can someone get me off this planet.
The world has gone absolutely barmy.
And I blame the younger generation for it, absolute crackpots, that believe everything they read, see on instagram or any other social media, can’t think for themselves. Just wow.
 

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