PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Jam Tomorrow]

I think you were misinterpreting the main target of that comment you responded to personally(Leterme). Bayern and it's reps have been one of the most vocally hostile clubs towards City. Just type this into google "Rummenigge Man City" and see how many results you get, the press in the UK bombarded us with anyone and his dog who wanted to have a pop at the club. At the time those leaks cam out nobody had ever heard of Der Spiegel. You're right that it was knee jerk grasping but try and understand what that must have been like. The press are used as tool in the UK most certainly but I can't say I know much about Germany.

What we do know is that Bayern have won the league eleven years in a row and have no sign of stopping, they actually make the French top division look competitive.

 

[JewelZee]

Why should it take years?


It a simple matter, did we commit fraud, we say we have irrefutable evidence, show the evidence and if it's true we are cleared.

Because the people charging us don't give a rat's ass about irrefutable evidence. Hence, we have to keep moving along through the process until someone who is genuinely impartial sees the evidence. And that takes time...

 

[Colin Bell (genuine name)]

Personally I think City have been waiting for this to happen. They kept quiet after UEFA and CAS knowing that the Premier League were still conducting an investigation. If the Premier League had dropped its investigation then both City and the League could have moved on. Remember Khaldoon was a staunch defender of the Premier League after Tebas’ attack in 2019 -

“This is a special league, and going back to Mr Tebas that’s why this attack is not just on Manchester City, this attack is against this league. And I hope people start seeing that.”
"I know people don’t want to defend Manchester City, but for God’s sake start defending this league.”

The League and the American mob have seriously underestimated the intelligence of our chairman and it might now be the time he decides to bring down every last one of the corrupt bastards.

“I will not accept this club to be used as a diversionary tactic on poor investment decisions from other clubs,“

"We know that it's not easy for our competition - and by the way, the football world is very small and word comes around very quickly so when someone somewhere in a leading position in any club says something or briefs something, guess what? We know about it.”

Guess what? WE KNOW ABOUT IT.

Go get them City, get every fucking last one of them.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

I keep seeing our situation being compared to what happened at Rangers but surely it's very different?

Didn't Rangers go into administration? I'm too lazy and stressed with our situation to start looking into it.

On these charges all this talk about stripping titles, being thrown out of the league/relegated shouldn't even be on the agenda. Why should innocent fans and the manager and players suffer because clerical staff fucked up? ( If they did of course) If we fixed matches, bunged referee's then yes that would be very serious charges and I would understand and accept we cheated, but we didn't. Anyone witnessing the decisions going against us over the years would know if anything the opposite was true. A few extra bob in Mancini's pocket and the players should be a fine at best.

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Yes mate. Entirely different situation. They didn't just go into administration but were actually liquidated, went out of business. Hence, they've never actually been relegated (despite what their fans may try and convince you). The reason they were in league 2 is because as a new club/business, they had to apply to join the pyramid and that's where they were granted starting entry into.

 

[Thornliebank]

Rangers went bankrupt a lot different. They didn’t get kicked out, they had to start again.

We got thrown down to the bottom tier due mainly to lobbying from Celtic. This was for using a tax avoidance scheme and nothing to do with going bust. It was what became the ‘ sporting integrity ‘ campaign to deliberately damage us to the maximum.
At the time the club was in administration with nobody at the helm and thus vulnerable to attacks and demands from those who seeked to gain from it. We had no say or influence whatsoever in the decision to demote us.
City are in a much stronger position with powerful backers employing the best legal minds to fight the case, so it will be far more difficult for the ‘ red shirt ‘ trio to have their pound of flesh the way Celtic had with us.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

I feel sorry for those fans who still have to go into a workplace or school! Every day could yet feel like the day after a derby defeat for months to come. In short, it's very depressing.

That said however, I think we will eventually produce documentation to discount any claims of wrong doing less those rather subjective charges of failure to help the Premier League's investigation. In fact, I'm convinced the Premier League only put those there so once we can prove our innocence, they can justify their actions and avoid complete ridicule by saying that if they had everything City supplied prior to the hearing, it could have been avoided!

In fact neither the Premier League nor City benefit by any of this and I am certain the Premier League's actions are being forced by certain clubs, who may well have forced the Premier League's hand by threatening to support independent regulation unless they charged us.

The whole scenario is awkward for the Premier League and a bloody nightmare for City, because in essence, the innuendo and besmirching that our club's name now finds itself under is far worse than any fine, points deduction or relegation. All those are inconsequential to having every media outlet openly undermine every effort this club has made for 15 years!

Frankly, regardless of any beating of the charges, the shit has stuck and I am not sure how we can ever hope to reestablish our good name even if completely exonerated.

Of course, if in some way we have all been too optimistic and we are proved to be conclusively guilty as charged, then I believe the only solution would be to somehow have the club dissolved and reformed under new fan led ownership, and reclimb the football pyramid from the bottom. Rangers did it and frankly most Rangers fans I know are glad that the club reformed as it gave the a complete reboot.

Strangely, what I don't want is some middle ground outcome of being guilty and trying to carry on as normal after a points deduction, relegation or huge fine. That will leave our club in complete limbo and a laughing stock for all eternity.

Read it a couple of times now - still not sure what you're saying.
You seem overly concerned about others thinking naughty things about us.

 

[Atypical]

We got thrown down to the bottom tier due mainly to lobbying from Celtic. This was for using a tax avoidance scheme and nothing to do with going bust. It was what became the ‘ sporting integrity ‘ campaign to deliberately damage us to the maximum.
At the time the club was in administration with nobody at the helm and thus vulnerable to attacks and demands from those who seeked to gain from it. We had no say or influence whatsoever in the decision to demote us.
City are in a much stronger position with powerful backers employing the best legal minds to fight the case, so it will be far more difficult for the ‘ red shirt ‘ trio to have their pound of flesh the way Celtic had with us.

Cheers, was not aware of all that.

 

[CatMan]

Read it a couple of times now - still not sure what you're saying.
You seem overly concerned about others thinking naughty things about us.

In the short term no fans deserve to have their club unfairly ridiculed if not true.

In the long term, and if it's proven we have cheated, we cannot carry on as if nothing happened. I for one, and I suspect most fans would rather be considered honest alsorans than dishonest winners!

 

[Bluesince1979]

People don’t have to leave home to sign an online petition

Was tongue in cheek

 

[Citizen1961]

I feel sorry for those fans who still have to go into a workplace or school! Every day could yet feel like the day after a derby defeat for months to come. In short, it's very depressing.

That said however, I think we will eventually produce documentation to discount any claims of wrong doing less those rather subjective charges of failure to help the Premier League's investigation. In fact, I'm convinced the Premier League only put those there so once we can prove our innocence, they can justify their actions and avoid complete ridicule by saying that if they had everything City supplied prior to the hearing, it could have been avoided!

In fact neither the Premier League nor City benefit by any of this and I am certain the Premier League's actions are being forced by certain clubs, who may well have forced the Premier League's hand by threatening to support independent regulation unless they charged us.

The whole scenario is awkward for the Premier League and a bloody nightmare for City, because in essence, the innuendo and besmirching that our club's name now finds itself under is far worse than any fine, points deduction or relegation. All those are inconsequential to having every media outlet openly undermine every effort this club has made for 15 years!

Frankly, regardless of any beating of the charges, the shit has stuck and I am not sure how we can ever hope to reestablish our good name even if completely exonerated.

Of course, if in some way we have all been too optimistic and we are proved to be conclusively guilty as charged, then I believe the only solution would be to somehow have the club dissolved and reformed under new fan led ownership, and reclimb the football pyramid from the bottom. Rangers did it and frankly most Rangers fans I know are glad that the club reformed as it gave the a complete reboot.

Strangely, what I don't want is some middle ground outcome of being guilty and trying to carry on as normal after a points deduction, relegation or huge fine. That will leave our club in complete limbo and a laughing stock for all eternity.

The only mickey taking I get from other clubs fans is on the performance on the pitch, which isn't very often. Most normal fans focus on the footy. I do think the Premier league have committed an act of self harm in trying to keep control out of the hands of an independent regulator. It's actually increasing my love for the club. Seige mentality and all that.