PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Jack Hackett said:
I‘d like to repeat my previously stated position on this. I’m against FFP because I see it as anti-competitive in wanting to secure a cosy monopoly for the ‘top’ clubs fearful that an unrestricted free for all would damage their standing. I have never had a problem therefore for City or any other club with ambition to spend to secure success for their club. City and now Newcastle are a refreshing change to the status quo. Thats why the PL is so exciting (and how dull for example, La Liga is dominated by Barca and Real).

So, why shouldn’t we encourage say the likes of West Ham were they to get the financial backing to invest to challenge at the top? Why can’t fans of so called lesser teams not dream about winning trophies? It seems more fair to me.
I hope Arsenal are not involved in this currently because they were ill advised back in the day to have gotten involved at all. If they are, they don’t have my support and that’s true for a lot of our fans.

Anyway, I hope you win this battle and don’t assume all fans support FFP. We don’t.
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Arsenal are at the forefront of this. Remind me what clubs crest was on the letterhead of that bullshit letter?
 
Keeper! said:
Not doubting a word your saying, but if it is so clear cut on our side, why has it gone on so long, I would think it's in the clubs interest to sort this, it does our reputation and the owners Nation's reputation so much damage.

And again this must be costing and will cost the PL ten's of millions in legal fees alone, not sure they are as daft as to continue for no reason.
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It's taken this long because the accuser (We've not been charged as this isn't a criminal matter), either had fuck all on us, or has spent their time ensuring a watertight case.

Either way it seems the accusations are more of the same & based on the already adjudicated Der Spiegel "exposé"... )(
 
BillyShears said:
There's charges for every season since 2008/2009. That in and of itself is insane. The level of breakdown in diplomacy that there needs to be for this to happen is off the scale. Yes, City have had a target on their backs for ages, but we still need to exist and co-exist in the PL. UEFA are a different kettle of fish, but at home we needed a much better tactic than "fuck the fuck off we're better than you and we've got more lawyers than you".
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If we are so squeaky clean this would have ended years ago, that's my worry.
 
SidJames said:
Chelsea spend half a Billion in one transfer window.

And City get hung out to dry in front of World MSM.

Bastards all of them.

This kind of stuff should be treated like a Guy accused of a serious crime. News blackout, Treated innocent until proven guilty. The damage to brand is what they really want.
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The damage isn’t just to City though. The PL are accusing the dominant force in their own league, as having become so through financial irregularities/cheating. Their own reputation takes a huge hit whether they are proven right or wrong and that is what worries me about this whole thing. It’s ok the club being confident they can bat this away, but surely the PL are just as confident they can make this stick?
 
Someone should of taken the instigators of FFP to court to find out why certain clubs are allowed spend more money than other clubs by the virtue of accidents of history. In other words the rules were drawn up to benefit clubs who at the time were historically big to the detriment of the rest.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
I have just spoken to a friend inside CFG.

They aren't worried, and neither should we be.

There are no surprises. Khaldoon will burn down the entire Premier League house if it comes to it.
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I think we have to now. It's got to a point where points deductions, expulsions and title stripping is being mooted. They want to play for big stakes? I hope the club does too. It won't go away or even recede until we put them to bed very loudly and preferably embarrassingly as possible for those behind it.

Not to say the affect on us normal all fans who just want to watch a bit of footy and celebrate our wins.

If the club truly thinks this is all garbage and unsubstantiated, then we need to go to war over it regardless of outcome. The clear and organised remarks were spot on, irrespective of viability of the charges, and I hope we ruthlessly expose whatever we possibly can on the premier league cartel.

The Aguero moment, the kompany screamer, four titles in five years, hundreds of goals.... They want to erase it all. Let's destroy them, instead. Reform of the fa and premier league for institutional bias and corruption, anyone?
 
OrigamiNinja said:
This is the one that is at odds with Citys statement. If the PL have asked for something and we haven’t given it them (for whatever reason) we must know that a charge for non-compliance is coming our way. How the frig are we “surprised” if we haven’t complied 30 times?
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Well, non-compliance with an organisation that is trying to shaft you at the behest of a number of their not-so-successful-these-days cartel, is understandable to large degree, imo.
PL: We've been told by the redshirts to shaft you by any means possible, can you provide evidence to help us achieve that?
MCFC: Fuck right off you bent twats!!
 
BillyShears said:
They didn't even do Soriano the courtesy of giving him the charges before giving them to the media and specifically to certain journalists. City have won 4 of the last 5 PL titles and that's how the league chose to handle it. That means we have absolutely no relationship of any real respect with the people running the league, and that's squarely at Soriano's door as he is the guy who sits in all those meetings.
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You say that as if they’ve ever had any interest in bridging the gap themselves.

What are Soriano or Khaldoon supposed to do when the cunts in charge want you dead?
if you sincerely think that there was a time they’d have been on our side you’re incredibly naive.
 
Jack Hackett said:
To be clear, he does have an Arsenal season ticket but he has no other connection to the club (assuming he is appointed to the disciplinary committee).
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A 10 point deduction for City this season would be pretty handy for an arsenal fan.
 
eyalluvitt said:
A perfect storm for him, he walks away with his head held high & his reputation in tact. While we give Stockport County 15,000 tickets for the opening game of next season.
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Why would we give Stockpot 15000 tickets ?
Or are you saying that city fans would turn their back on the club.
If your one of them then ‘goodbye’.
 
Eric Hitchmough said:
Do you think we’re fucked, Ahsan?
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No, on the contrary I suspect that in the end it benefits neither the league, its brand, nor City for the sanctions to be of any real significance. I'm just guessing btw and have no professional insights or anything like that, but I can see it being a points deduction which maybe means a season out of the CL, and a slap on the wrist. But not much beyond that.

The wider damage to the club's reputation is now done. We've gone from old titles being questioned to literally every season up to and including the 100 point one being in breach of PL rules. Whether we win or lose from here, the damage is done.
 
Dribble said:
It's taken this long because the accuser (We've not been charged as this isn't a criminal matter), either had fuck all on us, or has spent their time ensuring a watertight case.

Either way it seems the accusations are more of the same & based on the already adjudicated Der Spiegel "exposé"... )(
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The PL know exactly we will fight legally and in a big way, unless they are utterly benign , why would they risk everything attacking one of it's major members without serious proof of fraud?
 
the talisman said:
A few thoughts, I hope the premier league have got deep pockets they will need them
Surely this will drag on for years?
Poor timing, all the recent publicity about Chelsea’s spending makes this whole charade look like a witch hunt
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Witch it most definitely is, Unless you CSI every Pl clubs finances as vigorously it is unfair, unlawful and probably racist
 
BillyShears said:
He's in court all day today. Hopefully tomorrow.

On an unrelated note, Soriano should go at the end of this season. Regardless of the rights and wrongs of the PL investigations, all of this stuff has happened under his watch, and City have flown too close to the sun too many times in the pursuit of maximum commercial growth.
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The problem there is that Txiki and Pep may go as well.
 
Dribble said:
It's taken this long because the accuser (We've not been charged as this isn't a criminal matter), either had fuck all on us, or has spent their time ensuring a watertight case.

Either way it seems the accusations are more of the same & based on the already adjudicated Der Spiegel "exposé"... )(
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i think a lot of the charges are to get around the 6 year statute rule personally.
 
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