PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[bondsman]

Sad that for the duration of the investigation as fans we have to listen to the shite that opposing fans are now spouting. Be even worse if there has been wrong doing. I just hope this shit galvanises the team for the remainder of the year and we do something special on the pitch be class to win another 3 trophies and it would boil some serious piss

 

[stan bowles]

I don’t think he will face them alone. Simon Heggie will sit next to him I imagine, and will nip it in the bud at the start of the presser, or at least try to.

He (Club's media guy) needs to make it clear before any presser starts that no questions about the current PL charges will be answered so respectfully don't ask them. Don't even let the buggers ask anything. Pep can't comment on them anyway.

 

[havefaith]

City have been under the spotlight since the takeover, fear, jealousy and blatant racism being the drivers. And under continued spotlight some of the World's top business brains aided by similar accountants and auditors have been cooking the books ?

You couldn't make this shit up, the club will come through this hopefully highlighting the witch hunt/cunts behind this.

My only concern is the damage already done and the effect on the club, players and fans. This thread highlights the mood amongst fans and can only imagine its similar within the club, let's hope like us it's galvanised everyone to come together and do what we do best - "fight to the end"



CTID


ps - anynone know how to resolve posting problems on a S21/android, bloody nightmare at minute.

 

[Champions again in 2012]

if we`ve done nothing wrong then it shouldnt take too long anyway mate?

there’s circa 100 charges that have been laid. If we’ve done nothing wrong it still takes time to respond to them. Clearly the club will prioritise them but it won’t be a quick process in my view. So I do not believe that 23 days allows enough time to respond to 100 charges, unless “not guilty on all counts” will do for openers

 

[J.G.Blue.]

Had the ruler on the Knuckles. Around aged 9/10. I too have witnessed the chalk duster, but was never rogueish enough for that particular beating.
It’s what kids are lacking these days.

Lad next to me had a wooden chair thrown at him by the Music teacher because he wouldnt shut up, mind you that was around 1976 :-)

 

[woody1968]

Mancinigate is only the same as Pogbagate when he signed for the RTs and “other” parties helped reduce the RTs financial burden - Adidas for example. If the good old PL really want to clean up the football house they need to go in every room not just the “City room”. If anyone anywhere truly believes we have used financial tactics that no one else in the PL have used then they need to wake up and smell the proverbial. If this all goes tits up for the PL they may well end up being masters of their own downfall.

 

[Norman kneejerk]

I would suggest the fact that we are where we are, already puts the Premier League beyond the point of no return on that score. You don’t levy 100 serious charges against a club and not even have the courtesy to contact them before publishing said charges in the press, unless your relationship with that club is pretty broken. They would have known full well what the City hating media’s reaction would be, and that a compromise settlement or leniency would be very difficult as a result, without being slaughtered by the same ’red’ lap dogs.
The PL doesn’t give a shit about City or whether crucifying us would be to damage their own product in the process, or at least if it does, they may have other priorities. As an organisation they’ve always operated under the threat of United and Liverpool leaving them, and I don’t doubt that threat is being leveraged against them now. This is total war. If we lose, get used to the idea of being thoroughly fucked. The Court of Public Opinion will demand relegations and stripped titles. We have no friends out there. None. Forget about talk of Khaldoon whispering in Downing Street ears. How would it look for the government to have had a backstage word with the PL? How would it look, on top of everything else, if even a whisper got out of our trying to influence proceedings?
I know feck all about finance (although the Fordham thing worries even a journeyman like me), but I just hope we’ve got all our ducks in a row, cos this is their (and by ‘their’, I mean the American owner backed tail wagging the PL dog) last chance to destroy us, which is what they want. Fines, points deductions, punishments we can ride out for a year or two and then bounce back from, are of no use to them. In the words of John Kreese in the Karate Kid, they want us “out of commission permanently”.
On a separate note - and my apologies if they’ve already addressed the matter elsewhere - I’d be interested in whether @projectriver or @Prestwich_Blue think we’d be better off grasping the nettle and getting the hearing out of the way quickly, or frustrating the process for years (leaving to one side the fact that the complex nature of what’s involved, might point to a long, drawn out affair in the Courts anyway)? Just thinking practically, in the immediate short term, of how we would attract new players to the club, if we have the possibility of having any titles we might win subsequently removed, hanging over our heads. It surely can’t be in our interests to have the stink of this wafting around us in the long term, albeit that the reputational damage is already effectively done, can it? Whatever, fingers crossed that we’re going to get a fair trial and not one of the Speckled Jim variety!

Pretty much my thoughts they've had this planned and have umleashed everything to try to take us out completely. From what I can gather they seem to have their own people in place for the hearing so not much chance we can win that, so won't it come down to the appeal stage.

The only thing I can think contrary to that is the PL might not want their corruption and trumped up charges exposed so might be forced to negotiate a sanction before that stage.

Interested in any views.

 

[Burtonblue]

Edit
just have a look at the fucking fail this morning. according to them we have a flagrant disregard of rules. They are also running a poll on how we should be punished. Attacks by the media will be ramped up x 10.

The media’s reporting is exceptionally negative so how n earth can we expect neutrality in an “independent “ review?
We’re already being portrayed as guilty!

 

[dubblue]

Sad that for the duration of the investigation as fans we have to listen to the shite that opposing fans are now spouting. Be even worse if there has been wrong doing. I just hope this shit galvanises the team for the remainder of the year and we do something special on the pitch be class to win another 3 trophies and it would boil some serious piss

Wrong doing?…man invests his own money in his own business shocker. It’s bullshit,complete and utter garbage.

 

[pride in battle]

He'll take it anyway, mate, gladly.

Without wishing for it to read disrespectful, what you Tweeted was hardly groundbreaking? I don't think anybody is under any illusion, whatsoever, the Premier League would seek to impose the heaviest of punishments.

My disappointment was your own viewpoint that we should be relegated if found guilty?

Personally, I find that hard to digest and a delicious tap-in for people such as Harris, who only gave you the right of redress after previously dismissing you and other Blue Moon informed posters as deranged.

We all have a different moral compass. I have nothing but respect for how City do business and the hoops and hurdles they have had to jump through to simply exist as a successful entity.

He might be a City fan but he's thrown the club and the fans under a bus, like they need more ammunition ffs

 

[halfcenturyup]

It's extraordinary. I don't know how we can be accused of very serious accounting malpractice and yet see our case go to an independent hearing of this kind. The Serious Fraud Office and/or HMRC must surely be taking an interest in the explosive nature of these allegations. There will surely be questions about the competency of the PL if they failed to detect falsification, as well as many other bodies that scrutinised our accounts and ultimately signed them off. I agree with Stefan when he says that it is entirely plausible that the PL simply do not understand of what it is they are accusing City. This has the potential to become an extremely ugly affair and goes beyond the UEFA allegations in terms of severity. It would also appear that some of the professional courtesy that City shared with UEFA is lacking with the PL. After the CAS verdict, Khaldoon called Ceferin and they had a cordial conversation. I don't see something similar happening here - I think that the outcome could shake the foundations of the PL, particularly with independent regulation in the offing. I should imagine that the UK government will only be emboldened to introduce independent regulation if one of its key security allies and trade partners is wrongfully smeared by an organisation that is in the grip of certain members with too much influence.

I said earlier that by referencing true and fair financial information, everyone thinks we cheated on the annual accounts. I think they used the wrong expression and it was a clumsy description. We will see.

 

[BlueMoonz1977]

Anyone who has ever entered a negotiation knows you overstate your position in order to settle at the best figure you can get.
Looks like the premier league are trying to puff up the whole thing into something it’s not. I mean including youth player contracts etc
I imagine they know full well half of this will be thrown out and they are hoping some will stick.
They will them punish us for some minimal stuff and act like we’re cheats

Its the last four words of your post that i am now totally fucking fed up with, it has gone on for too long this City are cheats narrative

There is no way, if we prove all these allegations are false that we can just say 'job done" and then sit quietly on a victory knowing full well we will be lauded as cheats still in their eyes

The systematic damage that is being caused by all of this deserves now to be countered with everything we have, and if that means destroying the PL as it is now then so be it

The whole PL organisation is corrupt to the core to placate the clubs who believe it is their divine right to sit at the top

 

[M18CTID]

Maybe we should insist that HMRC and the Serious Crimes unit be brought in.
I really think that we need to gane change such are the seriousness if the charges and their potential consequences. Why the fuck should we sit meekly under this cloud for the next x years.

This is a great shout. Assuming the allegations of false accounting are bollocks of course, perhaps that's what we should do and also ask the PL why the fuck they didn't being them in.

 

[Rascal]

40,000 fans in the conference, that would show them all who has the plastic fans!

Wouldn't it just and if anything it would actually improve the atmosphere at the Etihad as everyone would be behind the lads 100%

We would still have empty seats at home though apart from when we play our local derbies against Altrincham and Oldham :))

Euro away to Wrexham, plus we would be Cup minnows taking 1000s to the big boys

 

[WRicko]

So very confused about all of this.

I like to think I am relatively aware of off the field matters but this all seems a lot more complex and frankly bizarre than the previous set of allegations and our fight with UEFA so I don’t really know what’s going on that being said.

Surely for some of these allegations to be true collusion between man city and major corporations and auditors needs to have taken place along with tax evasion and false accounting.

How can they have evidence ? When they would need evidence from players managers companies bank accounts that they don’t have jurisdiction over ?

Also won’t HMRC etc have to get involved ?

How was nothing spotted before ?

Maybe it’s a set up or clear our name ?

Or maybe they just really hate us ?

What’s the time scale on this ?

Does anything related to transfers ?

Why was the hack time barred but not this ?

 

[come-on-barney]

The media’s reporting is exceptionally negative so how n earth can we expect neutrality in an “independent “ review?
We’re already being portrayed as guilty!

Think that’s the point we are making. There is no chance of a fair hearing.

 

[waspish]

So apparently City, our external auditors, Silver Lake and the Chinese government are all in on a conspiracy to pay Bobby Manc a few backhanders?

They just want to get us. That's it. And I think this time they'll be made to look stupid

Chinese don’t own any shares anymore

 

[decmancity]

Just in case anyone is in doubt over who our chairman is. Find some time to watch this,



He makes executives at the Premier League look like contestants on the apprentice.

This goes beyond City v Premier League. It has now become a geo political issue.

 

[lancs blue]

having a friendly conversation with some newcastle fans who said some of our sponsorship deals were dodgy as fuck so i asked them to back it up with examples .... 8xBet, 3Key and Wega were quoted back at me and tbh i had no answer other than if thats true it'll come out now.

anyone have a better answer?

Just for context they like us and think we're being made an example of.

I'd say they were not so much "dodgy" in a fraudulent sense as poorly researched. Another is the OKX deal, getting into a crypto-exchange sponsorship just as the whole thing starts to unravel.

 

[Burtonblue]

This is what happens when the Americans get involved. It's no coincidence that since they have been involved in the so called 'big' clubs we have been systematically abused. I wonder why, could it just be the location of our owners. These Yank cnuts have no understanding of competition, they want to slice up the pie and divide it amongst themselves. If anyone gets in the way they go nuclear on them. This is what Yanks do whether it's politics, economics or sport. They blow up everything for their own benefit, they even blow up countries to reap the dividends, they'll happily try and gut us.

Great post.
Ukraine is a classic example.
Americans shit stirring and suffering none of the consequences.