PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Ric said:
It will almost certainly be Stone, and it’ll be along the lines of “Given Everton’s severe punishment last week, are you worried that all of the titles you’ve won could be taken away as punishment if City are found guilty?”.

Simon Heggie should really be saying before the press conference that questions about the investigation are off limits as it’s an ongoing case.
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Surely these charges relate to before Pep came so have zero relevance to what he’s won
 
Match Fixer said:
I wonder if the way in for the scouse cnuts for our performance info, also allowed them further within our systems, such as email. We should go for them big time, no mercy for the candle holders, snuff the cunts.
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If there's any residual hacking from that case that we haven't divulged I really do hope we are keeping our powder dry with it.
Now that WOULD be dynamite
 
pauls said:
Yeah,are we taking bets who asks the first question about the Everton case, I'm going Wanker Stone or Ladyman, he likes to think he's getting an exclusive.
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The football side of football isn't important anymore amid certain media and fans.
It's all about the drama.
Abit like the news and weather reports in this country
 
bugsyblue said:
I haven’t reviewed all 115 charges no and before you jump all over that I would bet my house 90% of people posting in here haven’t either.

From what I have read I think we did employ Mancini after he was sacked in an advisory role. How much of the role was to counter FFP or was really a job in itself only Mancini and city know. My hunch is it’s what’s called “creative accounting”. Does that mean the charge will stick? Who knows but I equally don’t think that charge is so unfair gross miscarriage of justice.

Anyway apologies if I’ve come across arrogant I just find a lot of posters in this thread only want to deal in theatrics.
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A lot of City fans are understandably bored to death of this and things have ramped up since Everton got penalised(which isn't fair, it's nothing to do with City), so emotions are a bit higher than usual. Surely you can understand that? I think you'll find most do understand why it had to be looked into but not why UEFA tried to penalise City without even the bare minimum level of proof.

As for the Mancini stuff, I disagree but I'm not claiming I understand the full scope of that.

Beside the fact that if I remember right that contract was signed before Mancini even began managing City and before FFP was in place(so way not just pay him a bumper signing on fee?) between a club that isn't part of the CFG, which didn't even exist until 2013 anyway. Also the amount that was paid for this consultancy work makes it unclear to me why there would even be a need to hide it, even if it did carry on while he was working at the club and FFP was in place. A lot of people have said tax is the biggest motivation for it but which party in all of that really needed to avoid tax. ADUG/Sheikh Mansour didn't, City didn't, Mancini was about to start the most lucrative contract he'd ever had just by being City manager.

There's a lot we don't know and I haven't heard a persuasive enough argument on the motive side of it. If Mancini was that greedy or Sheikh Mansour that keen on offering a sweetener that could have been handled before FFP came in without breaking any rules. If he did do consultancy work for a club not connected to City, why should that go on City's accounts, just because they have the same owner? Does J Henry/FSG do that when the Boston Red Sox or Pitsburgh Penguins pay for consultants, managers, backroom staff?
 
Blue_Lightsaber said:
I did have my concerns over some gotcha stuff like in 2014 but it seems maybe I and you guys don't have to worry.

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So while Everton, Chelsea have admitted wrongdoing to some degree.. we might just have taken a fine as the cheaper option than to fight it out in court.

As long as we didn't admit wrongdoing, I don't think it can be used against us though I'm sure the PL's lawyers will probably think that's their strongest avenue to display guilt. However I don't see how any settlement is admission of guilt.
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Also 2014 is definitely outside of scope in terms of the six years limitation period, since the restrictions of fraud, concealment or mistake wouldn't apply to that case.
 
skillman said:
A string of TH tweets this morning suggest clubs are asking the PL to further investigate the dippers hacking our scouting system a few years ago. Finally. I’ve been waiting for this!



He’s not done all the tweets as a thread but if you go to his profile then you’ll see them.
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I doubt stuff from that long ago will be investigated or used to punish clubs, but could it be shown to understand the context of the league we are working in? And that we tried to have good relations with Liverpool but they have continuously attacked us nonetheless?
 
Chi-town blues said:
Today I went to buy butter at the store . I got so confused if I should buy grass fed or regular. So i asked the store manager what do they feed the regular cow? He said he doesnt know.
So i asked him , if grass fed butter is more expensive then regular butter , how do youu know if it’s even a butter ?
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What was the price difference, out of interest?
 
SSL2 said:
I think our gloves are finally off.

pep warned other clubs to be careful what they wished for in that explosive press conference last season, this may be the start of it

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I hope it is the start of us giving it back. Its just that football this season is coming second to off field stuff.

It seems us doing the treble has tipped the American clubs over the edge.
 
mattcity5 said:
I doubt stuff from that long ago will be investigated or used to punish clubs, but could it be shown to understand the context of the league we are working in? And that we tried to have good relations with Liverpool but they have continuously attacked us nonetheless?
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Didnt think there was a time limit in the pl. We are being charged over rules that didnt exist lol.
 
mattcity5 said:
I doubt stuff from that long ago will be investigated or used to punish clubs, but could it be shown to understand the context of the league we are working in? And that we tried to have good relations with Liverpool but they have continuously attacked us nonetheless?
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TH has pointed out the Defoe/Spurs stuff being investigated as a mirror time-wise to this (Spurs happened a few years beforehand).

I think you’re right but having something like that brought up will do no harm IMO.

Like when you ask a girl out as a kid, the worst they could say is no…
 
HelloCity said:
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Madness. Although I can recall one poster on here saying the legal world is very small, so conflict of interests while likely occur. The judge for the CAS case had small ties to Abu Dhabi, but I think Stefan rebuked the claim that he would favour City just because he had an office at Etihad. These are professionals with their reputations on the line.
 
give it to gordon said:
I hope it is the start of us giving it back. Its just that football this season is coming second to off field stuff.

It seems us doing the treble has tipped the American clubs over the edge.
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It's the premier league crapping their pants and trying to look like they're actually doing something to try and prevent an independent regulator being brought in. They are terrified that if they are and dig deep enough they will probably expose high level corruption.
 
mattcity5 said:
I doubt stuff from that long ago will be investigated or used to punish clubs, but could it be shown to understand the context of the league we are working in? And that we tried to have good relations with Liverpool but they have continuously attacked us nonetheless?
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The hacking of our scouting database was from 2013 yet we're being investigated for things that go as far back as 2009?
 
skillman said:
A string of TH tweets this morning suggest clubs are asking the PL to further investigate the dippers hacking our scouting system a few years ago. Finally. I’ve been waiting for this!



He’s not done all the tweets as a thread but if you go to his profile then you’ll see them.
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Is there any chance you can show the rest of his tweets please mate? I don’t have a Twitter/X account so it’s not displaying his page when I click on it.
 
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