PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[ayrshire_blue]

#metoonextweek

They're playing the rags so #metoon as well =)

 

[Blue Pete]

Some dick no one has ever heard of called Billy Myers?

Might as well had said Gladys from the burger van at Longsight Market had told you mate.

If Gladys has told you it must be true, she is a true ITK

 

[M18CTID]

Just going back to the Mancini contract. Many of us - me included - have said that it makes no sense to do what we've been accused of and pay him off the books to make our figures look better as we were posting eye-watering losses at the time anyway, not to mention that the "arrangement" commenced before FFP was even a thing, so a couple of million extra a year on our books wouldn't have made a blind bit of difference.

Anyway, I've been thinking about it over the past couple of days and while my above stance hasn't changed one explanation I have considered is that it wasn't done for our own benefit with the intention to deliberately mislead the PL (as there was no need to) and instead it was done to suit Mancini as perhaps he didn't want to pay full UK tax. I'm presuming the income tax rate for his Al Jazira job was lower than it was for his City role? So give him 2 jobs - one in the UK and one in the UAE and split his wages between the two perhaps? Surely this is only really a matter for HMRC and even then I would guess it comes under tax avoidance rather than tax evasion, but even then would they really want to go there if Mancini confirms that he fulfilled his role with Al Jazira? Seriously, I don't think HMRC would even be interested, so it stands to reason as to why the PL should be. Whatever's gone on, it's fuck-all in the grand scheme of things and certainly not worthy of a points deduction/relegation/liquidation.

A side issue to this is that his initial wage at City was quite low and we're being called out for that, yet ironically it's normally the opposite as we're forever getting accused of over-paying players!

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

There will be all sorts of guesses at this but how long do you think the hearing will take once it actually sits?

The PL team will have to present their evidence on a huge number of individual charges and then ours will offer our defence on each of them. The non cooperation charges could probably be dealt with as one but none of the others. You'd imagine there will be additional points coming up all the time for the panel to address and there is the question of will it sit all day, every day until it's over (I highly doubt that). My guess would be at least a month for the hearing and then deliberations would take time after that.

 

[Pelegrinni]

Wasn't it a uefa breach?

It was a UEFA breach.
However, if the amount is known to the public, that could focus minds on the double standards applied when it involves United or Liverpool.

 

[M18CTID]

I saw Stefan's tweet from 2019 regarding the Liverpool hacking stuff, with him suggesting (when the leak happened) that it probably came from City and was perhaps a sign that the investigation or negotiations wasn't going to plan. I wonder if us subsequently having been charged points to Stefan being right on with this. I'm then probably thinking too much into things but wondering how significant that is in terms of our own confidence in clearing our name. If we thought the investigation wasn't going well and we might be getting charged, what did we know that they have over us?

Thing is, back in 2019 it was all about the UEFA investigation. No-one was talking about the PL investigation even though they opened a case at roughly the same time as UEFA did. So Stefan would've been talking in respect of the UEFA investigation at the time and we ultimately came through that victorious on all the main charges.

 

[johnnytapia]

Regulator my arse.
They‘ve got regulators all over the place and they’re absolutely useless.
OFWAT. Rivers and seas full of shit
OFGEM. Consumers getting rinsed on fuel prices
OFCOM. Consumers getting rinsed on broadband and mobile prices (inflation PLUS 3.9% every year ffs)
Also, GB News running party political channels with impunity.
OFQUAL. Pointlessly changing education, to nobodies benefit.
Gambling Commission. More gambling available than ever and more people in trouble with it than ever.
IPSO. That’s worked brilliantly and the press now always print the truth……..

There are many others who, certainly under the present government, give the impression that they ‘regulate’ but invariably just do the industries bidding.
Anyone who imagines a ‘football regulator’ will not soon be in cahoots with the PL and the usual suspects, is likely in for some disappointment!

Ofsted: not fit for purpose

 

[Pablo ZZZ Peroni]

They can try but I honestly don't think we'll accept anything that isn't unequivocally factual. I don't believe our ownership group has the least bit of interest in seeing to it that the Prem save face, nor should they. I truly believe City has and will continue to approach this as all or nothing...

Masters will be complete toast along with all the rest of them at the top of the hierarchy. City will absolutely and rightly hammer them.

After our own immediate interests are satsified, clearing this shit show up is the priority. It is in our commercial interests to have a strong and healthy Premier League rather than one with the reputation in tatters. The only way this moves forward is with all stakeholders, including our historic enemies, being onside. It is in their commerical interests as well. And they already know it.

The Super League court case next month is the only thing that potential could derail or change the direction of the process we will see play out before the end of the season.

 

[Coatigan]

It’ll be interesting how people view Chelsea if/when they start coming good.

They spent more in a year than we did in the first decade of UAE ownership.

Haven't looked but would guess on a comparable number of new players as well. They bought something like over 30 'first team' players in one year under the new owner, not sure how many we did, but feels like not more than that.

They sacked more managers in the first year though than we did in the first decade. And have had more overall.

 

[JPAMCR]

There will be all sorts of guesses at this but how long do you think the hearing will take once it actually sits?

The PL team will have to present their evidence on a huge number of individual charges and then ours will offer our defence on each of them. The non cooperation charges could probably be dealt with as one but none of the others. You'd imagine there will be additional points coming up all the time for the panel to address and there is the question of will it sit all day, every day until it's over (I highly doubt that). My guess would be at least a month for the hearing and then deliberations would take time after that.

Whenever it is let’s hope we don’t find out until the verdict is in. If the media gets wind that it’s taking place then expect 10x the pressure and bullshit we’re seeing now.