I'm certain that the panel won't be taking any potential geopolitical consequences into account and I wouldn't want them to either. We are either innocent of the charges after due consideration or we aren't. Why should we get away with something on the basis that our owner wouldn't invest billions in Sizewell if we were punished for example? We as a support base would be outraged if that was the case with a rival club so you have to be consistent.
Obviously I want us to be cleared and for this to finally go away but not on the basis of threats or undue financial pressure. I also think that people are over estimating the influence our owner could bring to bear on the UK government. Yes Abu Dhabi invests in UK projects but the country wouldn't collapse if it didn't.
Absolutely, the SAS can assault the PL hq on government orders as far as I'm concerned.I couldn’t care less how we win the case as long as we win it.
The whole premise of FFP/sustainability is designed to be unfair. Rivals have attempted to load the dice from day one and will continue to do so.
This is no time to be noble or take a knife to a gunfight.
Just win the case and move on.
we only use them on High street an they need workHave any of our accountants/auditors/sponsors moved to distance themselves from us? You would have thought if there was even a whiff that we may have misled them in any way or engaged in dubious accounting practices they would be queuing up to do so.
Regardless of yours or mine personal views I think the time for getting these charges binned on the back of political and financial pressure on the government has well and truly passed by. If the government was then going to lean on the PL then the time to do that was before '115' charges were laid.I couldn’t care less how we win the case as long as we win it.
The whole premise of FFP/sustainability is designed to be unfair. Rivals have attempted to load the dice from day one and will continue to do so.
This is no time to be noble or take a knife to a gunfight.
Just win the case and move on.
We're only in this position because of threats and undue pressureObviously I want us to be cleared and for this to finally go away but not on the basis of threats or undue financial pressure.
This World you inhabit........I'm certain that the panel won't be taking any potential geopolitical consequences into account and I wouldn't want them to either. We are either innocent of the charges after due consideration or we aren't. Why should we get away with something on the basis that our owner wouldn't invest billions in Sizewell if we were punished for example? We as a support base would be outraged if that was the case with a rival club so you have to be consistent.
Obviously I want us to be cleared and for this to finally go away but not on the basis of threats or undue financial pressure. I also think that people are over estimating the influence our owner could bring to bear on the UK government. Yes Abu Dhabi invests in UK projects but the country wouldn't collapse if it didn't.
I think that pressure will be put on the government to get the regulator in place before the kangaroo court sits and replace the Premier Leagues disciplinary regime with that of the regulator. This would involve agreeing a sanctions policy with the Premier League clubs but implemented and enforced by the regulatory body.I get where you are coming from but many things are linked the PL is a massive earner for this country, and seeing it successful is a political and economic priority, that thee is a battle over regulation going on between the government and the PL there can be no doubt
I’d have to agree, it’s monumentally stupid what the premier league have done under pressure. They really are an embarrassing organisation… I’d imagine Khaldoon sleeps very peacefully at night.Seeing khaldoon talking about the investment into the UK etc and Hunt saying how vital it is etc then no way we get done for anything imo now.
There's just been the F1 Grand Prix in Abu Dhabi. Did you hear the word 'sportswashing' mentioned at any point over the weekend in relation to that?I can see your point, and agree that it's daft to suggest we're all apologists for the UAE, but it's surely easier to make the link where the people clearly support just one team, and that team is owned by an entity linked to a state. Sports where the occasional event is held in a state, or where people are "fans" of individuals etc. are very different.
In other sports it's often the players who are the ones getting grief. The LIV golfers certainly got a shitstorm raining down on them (albeit things have got more complex since), and the players who went to Saudi faced plenty of criticism. Bein and Qatar have also been linked to sportswashing repeatedly in the media, but there isn't really a Bein fanbase to attack.
The other key difference in being fans of a team, rather than individuals, a sport, or a TV station, is of course that you have more obvious rivals. Rivalry between supporters is almost entirely based on hypocrisy. Their players are shit, our are great. They get all the decisions, we get hard done to. Their owners are worse than ours.
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I didn't watch it :)There's just been the F1 Grand Prix in Abu Dhabi. Did you hear the word 'sportswashing' mentioned at any point over the weekend in relation to that?
No but we'll probably get blamed for the loose manhole cover in VegasThere's just been the F1 Grand Prix in Abu Dhabi. Did you hear the word 'sportswashing' mentioned at any point over the weekend in relation to that?
Exactly...if they pulled out of horse racing in this country and that includes sponsorship for our biggest races,100s of people would lose jobs and Newmarket would be in trouble along with the rest of racing...not a peep out of the usual suspects about horse washing...set of twats...There's just been the F1 Grand Prix in Abu Dhabi. Did you hear the word 'sportswashing' mentioned at any point over the weekend in relation to that?
To be clear, you're in favor of bringing a knife to a gun fight or more like looking for a bare knuckle brawl against an AK47...not me...I'm certain that the panel won't be taking any potential geopolitical consequences into account and I wouldn't want them to either. We are either innocent of the charges after due consideration or we aren't. Why should we get away with something on the basis that our owner wouldn't invest billions in Sizewell if we were punished for example? We as a support base would be outraged if that was the case with a rival club so you have to be consistent.
Obviously I want us to be cleared and for this to finally go away but not on the basis of threats or undue financial pressure. I also think that people are over estimating the influence our owner could bring to bear on the UK government. Yes Abu Dhabi invests in UK projects but the country wouldn't collapse if it didn't.
It's not that cut and dried...I'm afraid your opinion is much too narrow for a case of this magnitude...I still get a few gifts every Christmas but I've known there is no Santa Claus for many, many years...Regardless of yours or mine personal views I think the time for getting these charges binned on the back of political and financial pressure on the government has well and truly passed by. If the government was then going to lean on the PL then the time to do that was before '115' charges were laid.
Clearly the PL weren't giving it any consideration and the independent panel will not even entertain it. They will reach a conclusion based on what's before them.
I still think the time to do it was before any charges had been laid. Too late now other than to demand a fair process from the panel.It's not that cut and dried...I'm afraid your opinion is much too narrow for a case of this magnitude...I still get a few gifts every Christmas but I've known there is no Santa Claus for many, many years...