PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[bigA]

If the PL were confident of getting a conviction with the evidence they purportedly have to hand then surely they would have swiftly held their investigation and punished the club years ago. Instead it looks like their evidence is built like a flimsy house of cards and they are praying the whole thing doesn't collapse before their very eyes. They have to prove beyond reasonable doubt any or all of the charges they have proffered to the commission. All we have to do it show any evidence that casts doubt on any or all of the charges and I'm quietly confident we can do so.

However, with them bringing the case forward to September they have either found (or god forbid fabricated or manipulated) some more evidence or, as is more than likely, pandered to the red top cartel and their tagnut, sycophant clubs to allow them to sue the club before the statue of limitations prevents them doing so. They are now hoping not only for the club to be ruined on the field but financially ruined as well. A massive gamble on their part which, if it backfires and we are exonerated, will no doubt result in unprecedented and irrepairable financial and reputational damage to the PL and those clubs who tried to sue us. I still think the PL are looking to broker a deal to save face but we have had mire than enough of all their whining, insinuations and allegations that we are determined to clear our name.

 

[homerdog]

What annoys me most about the media with regard to this, is that they have projected their own sense of rage at our success onto us fans.

It's as though somehow we deserve to have insults and allegations thrown at us simply for supporting our club and believing that we are innocent until proven otherwise.

The only conclusion I can reach, is that they are so bitter and twisted that any journalistic integrity has gone out of the window, such is the desire to justify their own clubs' lack of success, when compared to us.

 

[Rory Bluelow]

Absolute fucking hatchet job thinly disguised as journalism on The Athletic tonight!

Manchester City, the Premier League and the season everything might change

A few excerpts:

There are some (executives) who are so worn down by the decade-long pursuit of City that they fear Manchester City’s case may result in a financial settlement rather than a sporting penalty. Then there are rival executives who consider this outcome to be impossible, utterly outrageous, and say it would cast the death knell for financial sustainability not only within the English game but across European football.

…

As one Premier League club executive says: “The collective view I’ve heard is that an appropriate sanction would have to be a points deduction so substantial — we are talking here between 70 and 80 points — that it guarantees City a season in the Championship.”

Another of the sport’s leading figures suggests the punishment ought to be more creative, that a number of points could be deducted from City in each of the next three seasons, meaning the club’s chance of Champions League qualification would be severely restricted. Another compares the City case to that of the English rugby union side Saracens who, when Premiership champions in 2019, were deducted 35 points, hit with a £5.36million ($6.9m at current rates) fine and relegated to the second division owing to non-compliance with the league’s salary-cap rules.

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A coach who came up against City has simply made his mind up about their guilt and argues they have not achieved their success with the same level of discipline as their rivals, but suspects it is too late now to truly remedy the matter. At the same time, there are fears that a failure to convict and punish City poses major questions about the Premier League’s ability to run itself, particularly with the prospect of an independent regulator still looming next year. Numerous club executives say their incentives to follow the rules would be greatly diminished if the Premier League proves toothless on City.

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In English football, nobody is prepared to put their name to quotes about the City case. That is not the same for La Liga president Javier Tebas, who has been a longstanding critic of the impact of clubs linked to nation-states. City always insist they are not owned by the state of the United Arab Emirates (UAE), but Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan is the deputy prime minister of the UAE and the minister of presidential affairs. He is the majority shareholder in City via Newton Investment and Development, a company he wholly owns and which is registered in Abu Dhabi.

Tebas tells The Athletic: “It is difficult for me to say what is proportionate in England because I don’t know so well the English rules and law. But I can refer to what happened at UEFA… then what happened at CAS — in a resolution I would describe as a joke — is they took the sanction away. It was a very controversial decision to take away that sanction. Now, let’s see, I won’t dare to predict, but I am aware that there is a lot of concern among many clubs in the Premier League about what happens with City. What happens with Man City is a before and after moment for the Premier League itself.”

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And so on…

Anyone would think the Euros are over, the Olympics are over, and City are about to embark on the chance to win a FIFTH STRAIGHT TITLE!!!

UFB…Oh wait, no, it’s entirely predictable!

If you thought the whole of English football was praying for an Arsenal title win last season, one can only imagine the narrative we face this season.

Let the games begin!

So the Athletic have some unattributed vitriol from an ‘executive’ from a less successful rival club (note not a Chairman or CEO) a “leading figure” (pundit no doubt) an ex-PL coach (who came up against City) and fucking Tebas.

Desperate stuff.

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

Its time now to not let these city hating fuck wits inside our ground any more.

you see them, go at them. They deserve everything that someone may want to get them with.

 

[Bodicoteblue]

I am fascinated that Masters still feels the authority to comment when the matter is with the independent panel. By this stage, IMO, he should be keeping his mouth firmly closed so as not to prejudice either the details of the case, nor the speed of the process.

As for what is happening, we will know soon enough.
Good luck for the season ahead. Safe travels to all supporters.

Masters is just the monkey doing the organ-grinder’s bidding.

 

[cheekybids]

It might not be 10 weeks solid - could be a day or two set aside each week I suppose

I'm guessing the PL will be bringing a hell of a lot more paperwork to the table than UEFA presented at CAS. Rumour has it that UEFA's evidence amounted to the sum total of the Der Spiegel articles......and, errrr, that's it! Having far more paperwork doesn't necessarily mean they have far more evidence than UEFA did though.

As long as they bring the emails we’ve requested as well ;)

 

[Prophet of Doom]

I am fascinated that Masters still feels the authority to comment when the matter is with the independent panel. By this stage, IMO, he should be keeping his mouth firmly closed so as not to prejudice either the details of the case, nor the speed of the process.

As for what is happening, we will know soon enough.
Good luck for the season ahead. Safe travels to all supporters.

It’s all being staged managed. Masters knows full well he shouldn’t say anything.

But there he was giving interviews to every platform with comments such as ‘we’ve a responsibility to enforce the rules’.

 

[johnny crossan]

So the Athletic have some unattributed vitriol from an ‘executive’ from a less successful rival club (note not a Chairman or CEO) a “leading figure” (pundit no doubt) an ex-PL coach (who came up against City) and fucking Tebas.

Desperate stuff.

That noxious cartel propaganda pipe should be sealed off on here.

 

[Coatigan]

'There is a growing consensus among Premier League executives that the outcome of City's hearing will result in a points deduction so severe that it would relegate the club'

'According to The Times, one Premier League club executive said: 'The collective view I've heard is that an appropriate sanction would have to be a points deduction so substantial — we are talking here between 70 and 80 points — that it guarantees City a season in the Championship.'

Ok then.

 

[cheekybids]

It’s all being staged managed. Masters knows full well he shouldn’t say anything.

But there he was giving interviews to every platform with comments such as ‘we’ve a responsibility to enforce the rules’.

Talksport making out they went tough on him but never asked why did the Rags get £40m Covid allowance?

 

[halfcenturyup]

'There is a growing consensus among Premier League executives that the outcome of City's hearing will result in a points deduction so severe that it would relegate the club'

'According to The Times, one Premier League club executive said: 'The collective view I've heard is that an appropriate sanction would have to be a points deduction so substantial — we are talking here between 70 and 80 points — that it guarantees City a season in the Championship.'

Ok then.

It's all nonsense. Best ignored.

 

[Kippax77]

The media's getting louder and louder the nearer the hearing becomes.
Obviously to put pressure on 'the independent panel' to return the 'correct verdict'.
Sad thick twats

 

[bluemoon32]

'There is a growing consensus among Premier League executives that the outcome of City's hearing will result in a points deduction so severe that it would relegate the club'

'According to The Times, one Premier League club executive said: 'The collective view I've heard is that an appropriate sanction would have to be a points deduction so substantial — we are talking here between 70 and 80 points — that it guarantees City a season in the Championship.'

Ok then.

I don't think that'll happen but if it did, i think us fans would take it easier than the players.
Top players wouldn't hang around, it's probably in their contracts that they can leave in the event of a relegation.
The PL would probably bring in new rules about promoted clubs, just to keep us in check.
Obviously, we should know our place & doff our caps at every opportunity ha

 

[Lord Blue]

'There is a growing consensus among Premier League executives that the outcome of City's hearing will result in a points deduction so severe that it would relegate the club'

'According to The Times, one Premier League club executive said: 'The collective view I've heard is that an appropriate sanction would have to be a points deduction so substantial — we are talking here between 70 and 80 points — that it guarantees City a season in the Championship.'

Ok then.

That would be a fun season. If we’re guaranteed to go down yet get to play the cartel twice. So nothing to play for other than derailing certain teams. I foresee a lot of red cards and broken legs.

 

[BlueMojito]

Regarding the red top press and their vitriolic views on City, just remember that 'empty vessels make most noise'. They are shouting because they are desperate. Best to ignore them and remember what Khaldoon said about it.

 

[lazerblue]

Have we got a name for this "premier league executive" or is he just made up, we need to know where this shit is coming from and deal with it

 

[Metal Biker]

Someone's going to need to summarise it for me here (i'm not trawling through 50-odd pages to get the gist.)

But what is with the sudden negativity on here? Usually this thread is about Robbie Fowler, "is it football or soccer?", sexiest Corrie character and the like. Now it's talk of points deductions, Fleetwood Town, Northern Premier League and lawsuits.

What the fuck has happened?

 

[PPT]

Have we got a name for this "premier league executive" or is he just made up, we need to know where this shit is coming from and deal with it

He’s just made up. It’s total bollocks.

 

[Salford_Blue]

If these people are so confident of our “guilt”, why are they skulking behind the cloak of anonymity? At least señor teabag has the balls to stand up and be counted.

Out with it, you fucking cowards. Put your names to your words.

Some sort of evidence of this “guilt” would be handy as well. Whats that? You haven’t got any? Well now, there’s a turn-up for the books.

And the athletic expect City fans to pay for this shite? I don’t fucking think so.

The emails are 100% concrete evidence. What more do you need?!?


On a more serious note, I try and reason with people and ask them to see that the media are being one-sided on their suggestive reporting (I still firmly believe it is solely to get people frothing, which leads to clicks and money. I also think that many don't actually believe, or possibly care about, what they are reporting).

To demonstrate this I ask them to provide one or two articles from regular media outlets that gives City's side of the story or that City may be 'innocent'; and in response to any pro-City article (if any do exist), I will show them 200 articles that are heavily nuanced the other way.

You can probably guess what comes back..."there is a reason why there are no reports out there saying City are 'innocent'".

I go back in and say that even in criminal law, there are two sides to every story, which is where their 'argument' starts to fall down, with the predictable, "they are guilty", "it's all there for everyone to see", "cheats", yada, yada, yada; followed by them walking off.

Fans of clubs in direct contest with City want this solely because it stops their team winning stuff. There is no interest in a fair, true and legal outcome. Which is where the media come in with their suggestive reporting. Fair play...they know their market.

 

[BamberBridgeBlue]

'There is a growing consensus among Premier League executives that the outcome of City's hearing will result in a points deduction so severe that it would relegate the club'

'According to The Times, one Premier League club executive said: 'The collective view I've heard is that an appropriate sanction would have to be a points deduction so substantial — we are talking here between 70 and 80 points — that it guarantees City a season in the Championship.'

Ok then.

Just one more headline jumping straight to sentencing, presuming guilt. Yawn.