Oh I agree with you, the Premier Lesgue has said they didn't do anything wrong and it was quoted as saying they were given exceptional Covid and Share dealing losses.
If Everton had been given the same 40m Covid allowance they wouldn't have failed (plus the hit caused by the Ukrainian war as another poster mentioned) I'm sure Everton just didn't seek advice from the red shirts at the PL, the Rags influence is so strong you can bet they were back and forth asking what was the best way to fiddle the PSR, it's scandalous really.
I was pointing out how stupid it was that we'd bribe the IC. If the rag genuinely believes that's the avenue we'd go down then why not bribe the PL, obviously he doesn't know how to use cognitive reasoning.Youve taken the notion too far. Even the idea of bribing anyone is fuckin stupid
Hows it go down? Turn up at PL HQ bag full of used fiftys?
Its pathetic that grown men have these thoughts full stop
Whilst the theory is interesting. Do you think perhaps the red cartel will push to reform the Premier League? Not as drastic as to what happened back in 1992, when we saw the creation of the Premier League.Someone I was talking to put up this scenario: If we are cleared of all charges, United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs will breakaway from the PL and join a European Superleague which we will be asked by the other European Clubs involved to join. If we are found guilty then we will breakaway and form a European Superleague. The red shirt cartel will be asked to join by the other European Clubs involved to join.
Could this be a false flag war to enable this European Superleague to finally happen. Money talks and this could be the perfect excuse for Clubs breaking away from their respective league.
Spot on.I think the main issue here is not what the rags did it’s whether the rest of the clubs were made aware by the PL that they could also do the same? Or did they only tell the rags?
It seems pretty obvious to me that had the other clubs known they could, they would have. Why wouldn’t they?
Looks like preferential treatment to me.
A mate of mine is currently down the rabbit hole about Andy Burnham, claiming he’s knee deep in corruption. He keeps sharing social media posts on our WhatsApp group from what are usually far right accounts. I’ve told him to post his shitty conspiracy theories elsewhere. I think he’s getting a lot of it off Nick Buckley who he claims to be mates with. Now I’m no massive fan of Burnham myself but unless people can prove he’s up to something dodgy then they should shut the fuck up.They watch too many crime dramas sure corruption goes on all over the world but not the extent they think it does, any project given planning approval they are all over Facebook claiming "brown envelope" they don't understand process and legality and because they don't it must be corruption
They are but they’re all on the minimum wage!Every time the case is discussed in the media there is a reference to our expensive lawyers. Are the PL not spending anything on legal fees?
Every time the case is discussed in the media there is a reference to our expensive lawyers. Are the PL not spending anything on legal fees?
Probably more like the film Munich. Done over time, no rushing but professional, effective and decisive. Bring it on!Same here - I sincerely hope that ever since that first UEFA accusation we have been 'acquiring' filth on all our detractors... fire with fire.
When our name is cleared I'm envisaging a scene like the end of the Godfather - Mansour sat there whilst everyone gets their come uppance!
Presumably they’re doing it because they’re very much in favour of Paul Hewson…….Their lawyers are doing it for the love of the game; purely to uphold the ethical standards, and to put right all of the wrong doings.
Practically volunteering, if you will.
Did anyone ring Everton to ask or inform them ? :-)There lawyers were more expensive than Evertons.
Mint.There lawyers were more expensive than Evertons.
When we emerge victorious from this hearing the red tops will want to take their ball home.Whilst the theory is interesting. Do you think perhaps the red cartel will push to reform the Premier League? Not as drastic as to what happened back in 1992, when we saw the creation of the Premier League.
When we do come out of this and clear our name, the cartel will want action of some sort. These clubs are more powerful and influential now than when they were back in 1992, by which I mean financially and with their global reach with social media.
As far as I'm aware the FA are yet to comment on anything to do with us (which I understand as they are the governing body and need to remain impartial) but again once we have cleared our name, they may need to step in and do something with the Premier League.
After all the Premier League will be at it's weakest. Investors, sponsors, broadcasters etc. will want answers and heads will roll.
It's all a big game of chess with everyone and when this goes our way I just have this gut feeling it'll be a win win for not just us as fans and a club but for a lot of others too.
Apologies if already asked, but I've not been on the forum for a few days and haven't got the time to plough through hundreds of pages. With regard to United's losses, I believe they were allowed to deduct £40m for Covid, and £35m for the expenses of the club sale, but weren't their 3 year losses around £240m ??? If so, even with those discounted, the 3 year losses would still be around £165m which is STILL around £60m more than permitted losses under PSR ??
Did anyone ring Everton to ask or inform them ? :-)
But could he have been genuinely asking, since the media give no explanation as to what the charges actually relate! Maybe he had a lightbulb moment and thought, hang on, what the fuck has all this noise really been about, coz no-one lays it bare - even the very occasional media listing of the '115' breakdown is so vague it gives no-one who doesn't read bluemoon any inkling of the actual subject...
The breakaway super league is completely separate though. I'm talking about a reform within the league itself.When we emerge victorious from this hearing the red tops will want to take their ball home.
I guarantee some sort of breakaway league whisperings will start.
United are shit deep in debt and know that they can't take us on even when we've been fighting them with one hand tied behind our backs.
Liverpool won't want to go toe to to with us and splurge on big signings.
And Arsenal are just Arsenal.
Deep down they know that an innocent verdict for us will affect them more than it will effect City!
Richard Keys or Magic Hat gets the Luca Brasi treatment.Or like Luca Brasi "he sleeps with the fishes".
This is what I'm intrigued by too.@BerkshireBlue: I hope the IC agrees with your assessment. My reasoning regarding Mancini's situation is this: given that the charges were announced in February 2023, the Statute of Limitations (SoL) must be considered by the IC. The consultancy contract, in my view, was neither criminal nor mistaken — but was it concealed?
We could argue that, since there were no specific rules in the Premier League handbook (circa 2008) requiring a club to report contracts between its parent company (ADUG) and a club employee (Mancini), there was no concealment in our accounts. If there was no criminality, no mistakes, and no concealment, then the issue should be time-barred.
The Premier League could counter with an argument of "not acting in good faith," which carries non-sporting sanctions if the IC agrees.
Of course, I'm not a lawyer, but I'd love to know if my reasoning is flawed — or perhaps, not?