PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Blueknows]

Here's an example of how this shit impinges on normal life. I'm in a walking football club in the Midlands. Supporters of West Ham, villa, Southampton, wolves, Coventry and, of course, united, liverpool, spurs and arse.

A few weeks ago a liverpool supporter posted some shit about us cheating. I ignored it until the pile-on started when I just said "please fuck off with this shit". Well, of course, the scouser was all offended and I got a load of shit for being over sensitive. Anyway, it blows over.

Last night was the Christmas curry. I'm minding my own business talking football, price of replica shirts, admission, the future of football all perfectly amicable. Then an Arsenal fan chimes in, "I'm really enjoying watching City crash and burn". Now what do you say to that ?

As it's the season of goodwill, I was very polite and pointed out that I'd seen us win four in a row, win a treble, score a record number of goals and win a record number of points, seen Aguero, Silva, De Bruyne and Rodri at their peak, I can die happy. He then came out with a comment about cheating at which point I told him to fuck right off and it very nearly came to blows. It cast a cloud over the whole evening.

I should point out that not once did that bloke ever engage me in conversation to say something about the quality of football we were playing in our pomp, nor any word of praise. They are emboldened to think their opinion matters by the relentless negative press coverage.

When anyone calls us cheats firstly I reply how ? then follow it up with on the pitch ? bribed refs ? tell me how weve cheated our way to winning trophies ?

 

[oakiecokie]

That while City have put a huge amount of pressure on the panel to only accept proof, much like they did with CAS, the panel is not bound to follow the burden of proof, but a court of Law does.
So what reason does the cartel have to end this now, when it can get another 5 years of defamation in, it is not as though they are going to pay for it, as they will spread the cost right down to school football.

I`ve NO idea as to what you mean with that first comment ?? Explain please.

 

[KS55]

It’s a civil case and balance of probabilities.

You can read more here. https://stefanborson.substack.com/p/conspiracy-theories-and-innuendo

There are many practice notes if you are really interested https://www.edwincoe.com/civil-fraud-claims-misjudging-the-scales/

Proving Fraud in the English Courts – a higher standard? | White & Case LLP

The Court of Appeal has confirmed in Bank St Petersburg PJSC v Vitaly Arkhangelsky that the correct standard of proof where issues of dishonesty arise is not a ‘heightened’ civil standard, but the balance of probabilities.

www.whitecase.com

Trying to teach the law to Stefan is a losing bet!

Told ya!

 

[Newman Noggs]

When anyone calls us cheats firstly I reply how ? then follow it up with on the pitch ? bribed refs ? tell me how weve cheated our way to winning trophies ?

Once or twice I agree, but fuck me, all I want is a quiet evening out and it's relentless. I don't want to talk about it with people who don't want to listen and I, seriously, don't give a fuck what fans of other clubs think so why they involve me in their conversations I don't know. Well, I do. It's not "banter" it's provocation.

 

[Damocles]

Fraud=criminal=beyond reasonable doubt

Civil=balance of probabilities

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He's a qualified solicitor mate.

 

[BamberBridgeBlue]

Here's an example of how this shit impinges on normal life. I'm in a walking football club in the Midlands. Supporters of West Ham, villa, Southampton, wolves, Coventry and, of course, united, liverpool, spurs and arse.

A few weeks ago a liverpool supporter posted some shit about us cheating. I ignored it until the pile-on started when I just said "please fuck off with this shit". Well, of course, the scouser was all offended and I got a load of shit for being over sensitive. Anyway, it blows over.

Last night was the Christmas curry. I'm minding my own business talking football, price of replica shirts, admission, the future of football all perfectly amicable. Then an Arsenal fan chimes in, "I'm really enjoying watching City crash and burn". Now what do you say to that ?

As it's the season of goodwill, I was very polite and pointed out that I'd seen us win four in a row, win a treble, score a record number of goals and win a record number of points, seen Aguero, Silva, De Bruyne and Rodri at their peak, I can die happy. He then came out with a comment about cheating at which point I told him to fuck right off and it very nearly came to blows. It cast a cloud over the whole evening.

I should point out that not once did that bloke ever engage me in conversation to say something about the quality of football we were playing in our pomp, nor any word of praise. They are emboldened to think their opinion matters by the relentless negative press coverage.

They really aren’t worth engaging with in any intellectual way. You’ll never convince them they’re wrong. Just smile, hold up four fingers and give a throw away comment about how we took cheating to a world class level. So much so they can’t prove it. You’ll be amazed how quickly they get wound up instead of you.

 

[salfordbluetrue]

Your missing the point the panel cannot find city guilty based on us not proving our innocence they the premier league still have to prove guilt to the panel all be it to a lower level of proof then a court

I hope you are right, i just do not believe it, as with UEFA who investigated, charged, found us guilty and punished us, without any evidence, my view is this independent PL panel will do much like the other independent panels, and run with the PL/cartel where it can.

 

[Blueknows]

Once or twice I agree, but fuck me, all I want is a quiet evening out and it's relentless. I don't want to talk about it with people who don't want to listen and I, seriously, don't give a fuck what fans of other clubs think so why they involve me in their conversations I don't know. Well, I do. It's not "banter" it's provocation.

Exactly what the red cartel and their media chums wanted , they want to tarnish all.our records and achievements , and I agree with you I feel the same way , jealousy is such an ugly trait as my nan used to say

 

[Cobwebcat]

I hope you are right, i just do not believe it, as with UEFA who investigated, charged, found us guilty and punished us, without any evidence, my view is this independent PL panel will do much like the other independent panels, and run with the PL/cartel where it can.

CAS is independent and found in our favour.

 

[KS55]

I hope you are right, i just do not believe it, as with UEFA who investigated, charged, found us guilty and punished us, without any evidence, my view is this independent PL panel will do much like the other independent panels, and run with the PL/cartel where it can.

UEFA investigatory chamber was fixed and corrupt. No one doubts that now, not even UEFA themselves. It is natural to have doubts about a panel chosen by the PL. Stefan says they will act honourably according to the law. Do not fret.