PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

halfcenturyup said:
You must suffer a lot of disappointment in your life if that is your outlook. And probably not experience a lot of excitement.
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I disagree. Success in life isn’t as binary as success in a sporting context, there are many different ways to be a winner in life

Regardless, in one sense fans live vicariously through City and have experienced lots of excitement in the last decade

That said, I think some of the newer fans, for whom going to the match is just another entertaining experience like a trip to the theatre or cinema or a visit to an upmarket shopping mall, don’t mind so much about winning. Football to them isn’t such a tribal affair where seeing your team win is really important - but to a lot of fans that’s what sport is all about.

Back in the bad old days fans didn’t bemoan another disastrous result and say “one day I hope to be well entertained at the match”. They said “please god just let me see city win one thing before I die “
 
Axel Freed said:
I disagree. Success in life isn’t as binary as success in a sporting context, there are many different ways to be a winner in life

Regardless, in one sense fans live vicariously through City and have experienced lots of excitement in the last decade

That said, I think some of the newer fans, for whom going to the match is just another entertaining experience like a trip to the theatre or cinema or a visit to an upmarket shopping mall, don’t mind so much about winning. Football to them isn’t such a tribal affair where seeing your team win is really important - but to a lot of fans that’s what sport is all about.

Back in the bad old days fans didn’t bemoan another disastrous result and say “one day I hope to be well entertained at the match”. They said “please god just let me see city win one thing before I die “
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Fair enough if that is your view, but then there must be a hell of a lot of bored football fans going to the grounds spending their hard earned money every week. For every winner at the end of the season, there 19 losers, of course.

I see it the other way round, tbh. New fans are the ones who will see excitement in winning. Any City fan who is older than about ten and has been going to watch City week after week has found plenty of excitement in the experience other than winning I imagine, luckily for them.
 
Both sides are so desperate to get this over the line but they'll both appeal and it'll drag out till 2026 or something. Meanwhile we'll struggle to get the top players we need whilst Real hoover them all up. Feels like a few windows since the charges announced have set us back years. We can bounce back but I think we need this dinner by summer to turn it around quickly
 
BLUE THUNDER said:
“More attractive, energetic expansive football”
Which several teams are they ?
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Arsenal, Liverpool, Newcastle, Villa, Brighton, Bournemouth.

They might not have had consistency in terms of getting results over the course of the season but they were all capable of playing more fluid, incisive, energetic football than our pedestrian relentless passing game which achieved results by just wearing teams down.

In our defence virtually every team we faced simply parked the bus, which could be used as an excuse for our style of play, but it doesn't change the fact that there were teams playing more incisive football than us throughout the season.
 
jacko74 said:
Arsenal, Liverpool, Newcastle, Villa, Brighton, Bournemouth.

They might not have had consistency in terms of getting results over the course of the season but they were all capable of playing more fluid, incisive, energetic football than our pedestrian relentless passing game which achieved results by just wearing teams down.

In our defence virtually every team we faced simply parked the bus, which could be used as an excuse for our style of play, but it doesn't change the fact that there were teams playing more incisive football than us throughout the season.
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You’ve just answered the reason why we aren’t exciting playing teams with 10 behind the ball but I fail to see how all those teams parking the bus is considered expansive.
 
jacko74 said:
Arsenal, Liverpool, Newcastle, Villa, Brighton, Bournemouth.

They might not have had consistency in terms of getting results over the course of the season but they were all capable of playing more fluid, incisive, energetic football than our pedestrian relentless passing game which achieved results by just wearing teams down.

In our defence virtually every team we faced simply parked the bus, which could be used as an excuse for our style of play, but it doesn't change the fact that there were teams playing more incisive football than us throughout the season.
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And, I think, that in the last decade those teams between them have one Premier League win and one CL win.
We have played some of the most intelligent football in PL history. It has featured moments of utter brilliance, of course, and has set the benchmark for the way that football has developed.

If you are judging purely on this season then you also have to acknowledge that for large parts of the season Rodri, Walker, Bobb, KDB, Foden, Grealish, Kovacic, Stones, Ake, Akanji, and Doku have been injured or ill. The same is now true of Dias. To judge Pep's tenure on this season would be flawed, IMO. We have won six of the last seven Premier League titles, the CL, treble winners, and have set a host of PL records.

Teams have developed the low block, fast counter, as a model of the way to beat us, but they have largely failed, until now. Why is that? Because we dominated the ball and achieved unheard of levels of possession which denied the opportunity for a counter. Now, without the fitness levels in our team, rivals are achieving temporary success and the media are all over it because they love to bring down a winner, especially a foreign winner, and rival fans are desperate for our success to end. They are emboldened so feel they have license to dismiss Pep as an also-ran, and the team as a cheque-book success. This is the tribalism of football and the culture of the British press. It is not objective truth.
 
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