Not a response to you jrb, but to some of the content in the video you posted.
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@slbsn says it could be a lengthy process to then determine potential penalties, if this verdict determines liability, did I misunderstand that you then say it could be a further coulle weeks after that? Is that really a lengthy timescale or did I get that wrong. Think if they detemine we are guilty and then a couple weeks later they decide the appropriate penalty, I would argue that was quick.
Interesting point on the sequence of potential appeals. Guess that answers a question I asked before. I don't however (not in a legal sense, but a general one) see the logic of waiting till a penalty is announced to potentially appeal both. Does that not raise the issue of what happens of the appeal says there is no liability as the penalty is being drafted etc. Surely it would make sense for one to be appealed first and any penalties to wait for that, than try run them simultaneously, or together. Unless it is the same body that deals with both, but then it is kind of loading their decision already potentially.