PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Goatmeal said:
Reading between the lines. I think the verdict is known between senior people on both sides. Maybe even other PL clubs.
I suspect they are discussing a way of releasing the news to limit damage to the PL.
It’s ok if city have won and say give it to them. But given we play in the PL there is no advantage to us to damage the brand we are part of.
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I think this is true. They may not have had the full judgment but both sides will be pretty sure of the result. The Comms phase will be in full tilt. Will City and the PL bury the hatchet and try and agree a way forward with a joint theme? Or will the war continue? City may demand the head of Richard Masters. It is complex.
 
Goatmeal said:
Reading between the lines. I think the verdict is known between senior people on both sides. Maybe even other PL clubs.
I suspect they are discussing a way of releasing the news to limit damage to the PL.
It’s ok if city have won and say give it to them. But given we play in the PL there is no advantage to us to damage the brand we are part of.
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Zero chance of that otherwise you can guarantee it would be all over the media by now.
 
Gorton_Tubster said:
Simon Cliffe being at the meeting needs an anology to be able to underrstand for us plebs... Why is it a soft signal?
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He was openly, and on record, questioning some teams motives for recent voting patterns. Intimating that they were not voting for the good of the league, but for "other reasons"
..... whilst wearing these shit-kicking boots!

As another poster said. This could be the opening salvo for more serious accusations of skullduggery and treachery in the future. Watch this space...
 
slbsn said:
It is squarely in my soft signal category. Not determinative but the last person you would send if you thought a poor result was imminent is the key lawyer. And frankly, I doubt he would fancy going. For example the current CFO, Ingo Bank could easily go alone. Or Ferran.
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Pardon my ignorance, but why does sending our top lawyer to a PL meeting indicate things have gone in our favour? Could it not be interpreted as the complete opposite?

I'm not digging you out; I don't know the first thing about law, but I don't see your logic?
 
burning blue soul said:
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He was openly, and on record, questioning some teams motives for recent voting patterns. Intimating that they were not voting for the good of the league, but for "other reasons"
..... whilst wearing these shit-kicking boots!

As another poster said. This could be the opening salvo for more serious accusations of skullduggery and treachery in the future. Watch this space...
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Stefan said it was his attendance was the real eye opener, rather than what he said. Just wondering why him.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
But neither the PL or City know who is on the losing team as neither have received he written judgement. If Simon Cliff normally goes then its no surprise he went yesterday. His reference to 'Agendas' is as likely to refer to the APT votes as anything else. I don't see it as a soft signal , just City behaving as they have since all this kicked off.
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The actual judgment may not have been made yet, but each side have some of the top legal minds in the country and to suggest that either side three months after they made their final submissions have no idea how it went, in my opinion would be bizarre.

Whilst neither side will want to lose this case, for men like Cliff to still be going to these PL meetings and ensuring his voice is heard at those meetings whilst simultaneously thinking/knowing he may of lost and he is simply doing some sort of grandstanding at the request of City would be weird to say the least, he would not risk his and his fellow legal team members reputation/s in that way.

As @slbsn states a soft signal, with a degree of intimidation thrown in (in my opinion).

Whilst the APT and the 115/130 cases are indeed separate, the signals from APT have been definitely positive, whilst the much more complicated 115/130 is so far harder to discern, in this case I think this ‘soft signal’ indicates confidence for both, again in my opinion.

Anyhow, as we saw in APT, both sides claimed victory and the actual judgment may not be as clear cut as we hope. I personally think we will be cleared of all main charges and hopefully this utter bullshit can be put to bed once and for all, the incompetence of the PL raises my belief whenever I doubt the outcome.
 
mcfcphil said:
Zero chance of that otherwise you can guarantee it would be all over the media by now.
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What if has been leaked to certain parts of the media in the last couple of weeks, and that's why we are seeing some last chance saloon type articles, trying to have one final swipe.

Also, these clubs would be less inclined to leak if they know we've won?
 
Keith Moon said:
She's the real de facto ruler of AD.
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It wouldn't surprise me. Matriarchal figures have a rich history of respect in Bedouin and specifically the Bani Yas tribal cultures.
What I referred to earlier as the almost religious devotion that the Bani Fatima have towards each other was based on a probable legend. It tells of Sheikh Zayed (not the founder but his grandfather (or perhaps his great grandfather or perhaps nobody and its an attempt to associate his name with the myth)) and his brothers who were at war with each other to establish themselves as the tribal leader. There's some twists and turns in the story but long story short, the brothers only agree to stop fighting once their mother intervenes and says she will scorch the entire Earth if one drop of blood was spilled in inter family conflict. Thus the brothers reunited and everything was great and better and all lived happily ever after. This is retold to every generation from birth and they swear loyalty to their tribal brothers above all else.

The fact that Sheikh Zayed overthrew his brother (or rather the British did and installed him at his request) to become tribal leader is airbrushed.

It might sound like just a story to us but the UAE is a country that was still full of wandering tribes when Mike Summerbee was playing for City. Their culture is distinct and as a nomadic wandering tribal people, oral tradition and storytelling is a central part of their culture. Folk lore, religion, supernatural stuff, mythology and history told in a sitting circle have a deep seated importance to their lives still today.

This is what I meant when I said in an earlier post that the CIA must think "these people are nuts and some power and loyalty structures are based on something that happened one day in the desert 300 years ago about a falcon". This is actually true and references a specific event about a falcon leading some people to water when they got lost in a desert and one of the tribes spared their lives and allowed them to drink.
 
Jim Tolmie's Underpants said:
Here's a simple fish pie recipe that’s quick and easy to prepare. Portion into ramekins and freeze for quick toddler meals or cook in a big dish for the perfect family supper.

  • Prep:15 mins
  • Cook:45 mins


    INGREDIENTS
    • 1kg Maris Piper potatoes
      peeled and halved
    • 400ml milk
      plus a splash
    • 25g butter
      plus a knob
    • 25g plain flour
    • 4 spring onions
      finely sliced
    • 1 x pack fish pie mix
      (cod, salmon, smoked haddock etc, weight around 320g-400g depending on pack size)
    • 1 tsp Dijon or English mustard
    • ½ a 25g pack or a small bunch chives
      finely snipped
    • handful frozen sweetcorn
    • handful frozen petits pois
    • handful grated cheddar

      METHOD

      • step 1​

        Heat the oven to 200C/fan 180C/gas mark 6.

      • step 2​

        Put 1kg potatoes, peeled and halved, in a saucepan and pour over enough water to cover them. Bring to the boil and then simmer until tender.

      • step 3​

        When cooked, drain thoroughly and mash with a splash of milk and a knob of butter. Season with ground black pepper.

      • step 4​

        Put 25g butter, 25g plain flour and 4 finely sliced spring onions in another pan and heat gently until the butter has melted, stirring regularly. Cook for 1-2 mins.

      • step 5​

        Gradually whisk in 400ml milk using a balloon whisk if you have one. Bring to the boil, stirring to avoid any lumps and sticking at the bottom of the pan. Cook for 3-4 mins until thickened.

      • step 6​

        Take off the heat and stir in 320g-400g mixed fish, 1 tsp Dijon or English mustard, a small bunch of finely snipped chives, handful of sweetcorn and handful of petits pois. Spoon into an ovenproof dish or 6-8 ramekins.

      • step 7​

        Spoon the potato on top and sprinkle with a handful of grated cheddar cheese.

      • step 8​

        Pop in the oven for 20-25 mins or until golden and bubbling at the edges. Alternatively, cover and freeze the pie or mini pies for another time.
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Part of the ingredients say “plus a knob”
Must admit I’ve never eaten Goldbridge in a Fish pie.
 
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