PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

mcfcphil said:
You would imagine the Board would have oversight of a decision of this magnitude against a leading club.

My point is, the Exec is responsible for delivery of good governance / running the business etc. Not every decision a business makes goes through the Board.

Masters wouldn’t be acting as a loose canon if enforcing financial governance (ie, charging clubs with breaches etc) is considered to be in the remit of the Exec and not something that requires Board oversight.
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Undeniably true. People get confused by the difference between executive and non-executive. At City as well. And by the use of the word board to just mean an executive committee.

Mind you, at the PL the non-executives seem to work as executives: carrying out FMV assessments, lobbying for the Chairman etc ... So I am not surprised there is confusion.

If the executive asked me, as a non-executive, to do executive work, I would have quit long ago.
 
halfcenturyup said:
Undeniably true. People get confused by the difference between executive and non-executive. At City as well. And by the use of the word board to just mean an executive committee.

Mind you, at the PL the non-executives seem to work as executives: carrying out FMV assessments, lobbying for the Chairman etc ... So I am not surprised there is confusion.

If the executive asked me, as a non-executive, to do executive work, I would have quit long ago.
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Agreed.
The problem is the PL seems to be a shambles, so all bets are off in terms of them following what we would consider to be normal business practice.
 
halfcenturyup said:
Undeniably true. People get confused by the difference between executive and non-executive. At City as well. And by the use of the word board to just mean an executive committee.

Mind you, at the PL the non-executives seem to work as executives: carrying out FMV assessments, lobbying for the Chairman etc ... So I am not surprised there is confusion.

If the executive asked me, as a non-executive, to do executive work, I would have quit long ago.
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Yes I forgot Fyfield was a NED when she’s claiming to be working long & hard on the Etihad sponsorship.
 
mcfcphil said:
Agreed.
The problem is the PL seems to be a shambles, so all bets are off in terms of them following what we would consider to be normal business practice.
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Fyfield sits on a sub-committee to approve (or not) the recommendations of the Regulatory Committee. She is not preparing the report, she (and another NED) are considering it and asking questions in the way sub-committees often offer independent oversight of an exec function. Not sure there is much to see or unusual in that. The thing that surprised people was that she seemed to take the sub committee responsibilities seriously and carefully considered the information. Not a popular opinion here but if we take City out of it, this seems to me to be something worthy of praise rather than criticism. Nobody wants NEDs that don't even read the papers.
 
slbsn said:
Fyfield sits on a sub-committee to approve (or not) the recommendations of the Regulatory Committee. She is not preparing the report, she (and another NED) are considering it and asking questions in the way sub-committees often offer independent oversight of an exec function. Not sure there is much to see or unusual in that. The thing that surprised people was that she seemed to take the sub committee responsibilities seriously and carefully considered the information. Not a popular opinion here but if we take City out of it, this seems to me to be something worthy of praise rather than criticism. Nobody wants NEDs that don't even read the papers.
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It all seems very convenient what to ignore & what to zoom in on.
 
slbsn said:
I’d say it’s very unsurprising that the largest ever PL sponsorship gets a lot of committee consideration
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That’s one way of looking at it but considering the committee was created with foresight that certain clubs will have the biggest ever sponsorship offers coming in.
 
KS55 said:
“My candle sputtered out at 1 am. I was very tired doing what Masters told me to do, finding the worst possible benchmarking cases.”… Or something similar in her evidence.
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If I remember properly, the tribunal said something along the lines that she had been closer to the operations of the EAG assessment than would be typical for a non-executive director (including communicating directly with Nielsen) and that her role was borderline executive. Half full or half empty? I know what I think.
 
slbsn said:
Fyfield sits on a sub-committee to approve (or not) the recommendations of the Regulatory Committee. She is not preparing the report, she (and another NED) are considering it and asking questions in the way sub-committees often offer independent oversight of an exec function. Not sure there is much to see or unusual in that. The thing that surprised people was that she seemed to take the sub committee responsibilities seriously and carefully considered the information. Not a popular opinion here but if we take City out of it, this seems to me to be something worthy of praise rather than criticism. Nobody wants NEDs that don't even read the papers.
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Yes, that all makes sense.

My original question was in response to people saying Alison Brittain would be under scrutiny if the 115 goes against the Premier League.

I’m not sure that is the case because I’m not sure how involved the chair would be in the decision to move forward with charges against City.

To be clear, I don’t know the answer to the question - just that it isn’t a foregone conclusion Britain’s position becomes untenable in that scenario.
 
mcfcphil said:
Yes, that all makes sense.

My original question was in response to people saying Alison Brittain would be under scrutiny if the 115 goes against the Premier League.

I’m not sure that is the case because I’m not sure how involved the chair would be in the decision to move forward with charges against City.

To be clear, I don’t know the answer to the question - just that it isn’t a foregone conclusion Britain’s position becomes untenable in that scenario.
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In the meantime the Chair position needs deciding with or without the result of the 115+ case or indeed who controls the policies.
 
mcfcphil said:
Yes, that all makes sense.

My original question was in response to people saying Alison Brittain would be under scrutiny if the 115 goes against the Premier League.

I’m not sure that is the case because I’m not sure how involved the chair would be in the decision to move forward with charges against City.

To be clear, I don’t know the answer to the question - just that it isn’t a foregone conclusion Britain’s position becomes untenable in that scenario.
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She is executive isn't she? It isn't clear to me, tbh, but if she is, she will have to answer a few questions too, surely, when the PL can't land the most serious allegations? But, even if she isn't, all the non-executives should be at risk too, by the way, for failing miserably in their roles. It's all an enormous clusterfuck.

Anyway, the PL isn't my problem. They can all fuck off for all I care. Just get the verdict out and let's get on with the game again.
 
mcfcphil said:
Yes, that all makes sense.

My original question was in response to people saying Alison Brittain would be under scrutiny if the 115 goes against the Premier League.

I’m not sure that is the case because I’m not sure how involved the chair would be in the decision to move forward with charges against City.

To be clear, I don’t know the answer to the question - just that it isn’t a foregone conclusion Britain’s position becomes untenable in that scenario.
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I think the executive's position is going to be questionable. The Chair may feel they owe a resignation but I agree it is not a foregone that the Chair resigns. In fact, it is likely the Chair's job to request the CEO and others' resignation.
 
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