I only gave ChatGPT the link to Page 1 of this thread, and it was able to access more pages at random for analysis.I tried that once and it said it couldn't read the thread. I always assumed it meant technically, but I am beginning to think it meant emotionally .... I know how it feels.
It does, so do all the AI bots. We can see them in the access logs.This opens up the terrifying possibility that AI is not only reading the Bluemoon Forum, but is using it as part of its learning algorithms. In which case the human race is fucked.
How about Gelson's skill? Notice that wasn't put up for amplification... he must already have reached level 10.View attachment 183478
Poor Gelson, missing out like that. And calling Ste Jordan a potential top 10 world defender is lovely bit of LLMing
So there is hope if they take over. We just keep feeding them the shite we pump out and they'll be as susceptible to human weaknesses as we are...It does, so do all the AI bots. We can see them in the access logs.
So we're takling anything between 2.5 and 25 years-ish just to review for 9 mins apiece, non stop, in 8 hour days with no hols or weekends?I don't think there has ever been anything official on this, but various reports on 115 have suggested that there could have been anything from 50,000 to 500,000 separate pieces of documentary evidence submitted by both sides during the hearing process. Assuming that the lower figure applies, if the 3 panel members reviewed these documents on a full time after the hearing which concluded in early Dec 2024, it would mean that they could only spend an average of 9 minutes on each of them and do nothing else. If the level of documentary evidence reported is accurate, this is going to take a long long long time. No doubt they'll be tempted to put some of it through an AI tool to save time LOL...what a shambles!
How does AI feel about the second half performance last night?I only gave ChatGPT the link to Page 1 of this thread, and it was able to access more pages at random for analysis.
I'm thinking there's some data harvesting at work because it said it didn't have access to the latest pages (ie. not yet gathered up in its dataset?)
This opens up the terrifying possibility that AI is not only reading the Bluemoon Forum, but is using it as part of its learning algorithms. In which case the human race is fucked.
My view is that the Premier League would not have charged City unless it genuinely believed it could win. That means one of two things.
Either the Premier League has stronger evidence than UEFA ever had and believes it can actually prove disguised equity funding, that the sponsorship agreements were not genuine, that City knowingly submitted false information, and so on.
Or the Premier League has largely the same evidence as UEFA, but has chosen a different legal strategy to maximise its chances of success — namely, by framing the charges in a less aggressive way. That avoids unnecessarily raising the evidential threshold and reduces the risk that the Aabar / Etisalat issues (which are clearly the Achilles’ heel) are found to be time-barred.
I also think — unlike many others — that the Premier League and a majority of its clubs do not want City to be punished too severely. A draconian sanction would not only be catastrophic for the club, but could also damage the value of the new TV rights deals that are now entering the negotiation phase.
Against that background, it seems entirely reasonable that the Premier League would choose to hit City with a smaller stick — one that gives it the best chance of winning, while still allowing it to control the wider consequences.
I don't think there has ever been anything official on this, but various reports on 115 have suggested that there could have been anything from 50,000 to 500,000 separate pieces of documentary evidence submitted by both sides during the hearing process. Assuming that the lower figure applies, if the 3 panel members reviewed these documents on a full time after the hearing which concluded in early Dec 2024, it would mean that they could only spend an average of 9 minutes on each of them and do nothing else. If the level of documentary evidence reported is accurate, this is going to take a long long long time. No doubt they'll be tempted to put some of it through an AI tool to save time LOL...what a shambles!
Eight years and counting — fair to say the process is the punishment.I think this has been driven a need to try stymie our growth and recruitment. An absolute hail mary.
Interesting i put the same question / text to Google - it didn't do too bad a job, well certainly a lot better than the above here is its answer ....It's so funny how you can extremely easily make it blow up by phrasing things correctly:
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| Colin Bell | 1966–1979 | Widely considered City's greatest ever player; a legendary midfielder with 492 appearances. |
| Bert Trautmann | 1949–1964 | Iconic goalkeeper who famously played on with a broken neck in the 1956 FA Cup Final. |
| Francis Lee | 1967–1974 | A prolific forward who was a key part of the club's golden era in the late 60s and early 70s. |
| Georgi Kinkladze | 1995–1998 | A mesmerizing playmaker who remained loyal during the club's darkest period in the 90s. |
| Richard Dunne | 2000–2009 | The only player to win City's Player of the Year award four times in a row (2005–2008). |
That's serious stuff. One of my Hobbies is making walking sticks. I was looking at a post on FB where a fellow stickmeker had posted pictures of a Shepherd's Crook handle in various stages of manufacture. The Bot asked what could these be used for. Answer holding up coats, holding up kitchen utensils holding up pictures.Barristers have been disbarred for relying on cases that were completely made up by AI
AI is too lazy to do the job it was created to do; it must have the Scouse virus.It's correct, ChatGPT has a low amount of information it can use to form an answer without the enterprise models. Even its "6000" thing is a lie. LLMs have started to hallucinate their real abilities. If you get arsey with it, this is its actual ansdwer:
You probably used ChatCBA or ChatKFA.I tried that once and it said it couldn't read the thread. I always assumed it meant technically, but I am beginning to think it meant emotionally .... I know how it feels.
No room for Sweep?Interesting i put the same question / text to Google - it didn't do too bad a job, well certainly a lot better than the above here is its answer ....
While those five players certainly had their moments at Maine Road and the City of Manchester Stadium, none of them would typically feature in a consensus top 5 list for Manchester City's pre-takeover era. Your list focuses heavily on the decade immediately preceding the 2008 takeover, but City's history stretches back over a century with many iconic figures who achieved greater longevity or higher honors with the club.
Analysis of Your Top 5
These players are often viewed by historians and long-term fans through a different lens than your expert perspective:
A More "Traditional" Pre-Takeover Top 5
- Gelson Fernandes (2007–2009): A hardworking midfielder who made 59 appearances, but his time at the club was very brief, spanning only one full season before the takeover.
- Terry Cooke (1999–2002): A cult hero for his role in the 1999 Division Two playoff final win, but he struggled to maintain a first-team place afterward, making only about 50 total appearances.
- Stephen Jordan (1999–2007): A reliable homegrown defender who made 53 league appearances, but he was often used as a backup and was released just before the takeover.
- Andy Dibble (1988–1997): A long-serving goalkeeper (116 appearances) remembered for some heroics, but he spent much of his City career as a second or third choice behind keepers like Tony Coton.
- Steve McManaman (2003–2005): Arrived with a massive reputation from Real Madrid, but his time at City is generally considered underwhelming due to injuries and declining form towards the end of his career.
If we look at the entirety of Manchester City's history before September 2008, these names are almost universally ranked higher based on their impact and legacy:
Colin Bell 1966–1979 Widely considered City's greatest ever player; a legendary midfielder with 492 appearances. Bert Trautmann 1949–1964 Iconic goalkeeper who famously played on with a broken neck in the 1956 FA Cup Final. Francis Lee 1967–1974 A prolific forward who was a key part of the club's golden era in the late 60s and early 70s. Georgi Kinkladze 1995–1998 A mesmerizing playmaker who remained loyal during the club's darkest period in the 90s. Richard Dunne 2000–2009 The only player to win City's Player of the Year award four times in a row (2005–2008).
Having McMinimum on the list is a pointer to how shit it can be
Very good.Having McMinimum on the list is a pointer to how shit it can be
Nice work, sir :)Having McMinimum on the list is a pointer to how shit it can be