PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Bill the Blue]

It's a double edged sword..

SKY, TNT and the mainstream media have facilitated a smear campaign against us for years.

Carragher, Neville, Collymore, the sniveling hoards that make up the gutter sports press and the like have had far too much to say without recourse.

Yes, we can just shrug our shoulders and move on or we can look into shoveling some of the shit these ****'s have spouted back their way.

Might seem a bit pretty but I for one would revel in their pain..

Like I said, it's a double edged sword really..






Do it City..!

 

[The perfect fumble]

No doubt the snipers will be out shortly but just to be clear again.

- Nobody knows the outcome of the hearing except the panel. Of course, not impossible the draft came yesterday - but as of Wednesday it hadn't
- Parties will have a good feel after the hearing for those issues that were settled one way or the other vs those that it is too hard to tell (will know by the way the panel asked questions, general direction of travel of the hearing, performance of witnesses etc). Some things will have been abandoned, some things emphasised
- It is simply not true at all that the parties were told the nub of the result 3 months after the event or that the club doesn't know (whatever that means) but Khaldoon does - whoever has told Colin that is simply wrong. Personally, I feel persisting with this theory on here is misleading - given we are at June 2026, it couldn't possibly be true even if we didn't KNOW everything else we KNOW. To emphasise, the best City have (Khaldoon or anyone else) is an impressionistic view of how things went and, of course, advice and a deep understanding of how compelling City's own evidence was. Perhaps painful, but even Lord Pannick doesn't KNOW if City defended the most serious allegations aside from the points above
- That the club remains confident and approaching everything as business as usual is self evident
- Pep has not left because of 115
- Even if you don't believe me, Pannick himself has responded here (those emails are real and he would not lie or mislead on Blackstone email) and, as you'd imagine, gets asked about the case when in the outside world. As on email, he does not stonewall any question
- APT is irrelevant to the outcome of 115 partly because it couldn't be pleaded as it wasn't resolved
- No decision can take much longer than 19 months. As I have said we are now deep in outlier territory for any commercial arbitration, disciplinary, piece of litigation - decisions simply are not meant to take this long for the reasons I detailed in yesterday's article. I always warned it would take a long time but never imagined it could be in this extreme category. It is an embarrassment to the panel, completely unacceptable and, as I wrote yesterday, an invitation to challenge the entire process if it goes against one party and they want to challenge it
- From information I had a couple of weeks ago from a very senior Clerk, it does appear that the bulk of the drafting has been completed

You know a great deal more about these processes than any of us in here, but I would add one thing, Khaldoon has something more than just an impressionistic view of how things went, he knows whether we did "it".

Now whether we did "it" or not might have no bearing on the outcome of the process at all, but the knowledge we've been unjustly accused by the vested interest, regardless of the panel's verdict, will definitely inform all of Khaldoon's decisions regarding investment in the club going forward, appeals and whatnot. Khaldoon chose to spend big and bring in the best to defend our corner and that might be, as our detractors claim, simply because we can, or it might, as I believe, be born of indignation. When I watch Khaldoon and maybe this is my blue tinted specs, I see a man that's not just confident that the Premier League can't prove we're guilty I see a man who knows we're innocent.

 

[Protein Junkie]

I have said all alone this is a smear campaign, nothing more or less.
The moronic hordes aka red cartel need this as sticking plaster to stem the wounds, paracetamol to ease the pain.
They designed their excuses an age ago. An impending success and out comes 115. Any valued member who leaves it’s because they know we are guilty. Pep is leaving a sinking ship. The brown envelope theory is still on the hob should we be found not guilty.
As for Stefan and Colin, both well respected and well read on here. Opposite views but it is really that binary ?

 

[pudge]

Let me guess, it's imminent, again

 

[BlueRockape]

It's a double edged sword..

SKY, TNT and the mainstream media have facilitated a smear campaign against us for years.

Carragher, Neville, Collymore, the sniveling hoards that make up the gutter sports press and the like have had far too much to say without recourse.

Yes, we can just shrug our shoulders and move on or we can look into shoveling some of the shit these ****'s have spouted back their way.

Might seem a bit pretty but I for one would revel in their pain..

Like I said, it's a double edged sword really..






Do it City..!

If I had the money our gaffer has I would have sued the bastard onto the streets

 

[1964]

In every other article until I die, City will be written as "Manchester City, who were charged with 115 accounts of breaking financial rules"
The club will be labelled with it forever

The club don't 'know' the outcome as it hasn't been released. I imagine Pannick will have seen all evidence from both sides and have given his professional opinion on the likely verdict and this is what the club is acting on.

this is the point that gives me hope
"So David should we start planning for the worst"

 

[halfcenturyup]

I have said all alone this is a smear campaign, nothing more or less.
The moronic hordes aka red cartel need this as sticking plaster to stem the wounds, paracetamol to ease the pain.
They designed their excuses an age ago. An impending success and out comes 115. Any valued member who leaves it’s because they know we are guilty. Pep is leaving a sinking ship. The brown envelope theory is still on the hob should we be found not guilty.
As for Stefan and Colin, both well respected and well read on here. Opposite views but it is really that binary ?

One side is that the crux of the judgment has been known for a long time, the other is that it is just taking a long time. There is a lot of middle ground in there which may have led to some serious and important considerations by the panel.

Let's not forget the wisdom was that it would be difficult to win a competition law argument in the APT case, but nobody realised the critical importance of interest-free shareholder loans. There could be any number of such critical issues in as wide-ranging a case as this one. Pannick gets paid the big bucks to raise them.

 

[117 M34]

You know a great deal more about these processes than any of us in here, but I would add one thing. Khaldoon has something more than just an impressionistic view of how things went, he knows whether we did "it".

Now whether we did "it" or not might have no bearing on the outcome of the process at all, but the knowledge we're innocent, regardless of the panel's verdict, will definitely inform all of Khaldoon's decisions regarding investment in the club going forward, appeals and whatnot. Khaldoon chose to spend big and bring in the best to defend our corner and that might be, as our detractors bleat, simply because we can, or, it might, as I believe, be born of indignation. When I watch Khaldoon and maybe this is my blue tinted specs, I see a man that's not just confident that the Premier League can't prove we're guilty I see a man who knows we're innocent.

That might not be correct.
It may well come down to how they interpret the actions.
The non compliance will certainly be like that.

 

[mancboy]

If I had the money our gaffer has I would have sued the bastard onto the streets

Our owner could easily buy both those companies, like i said tho they are above it, it irritates us or those of us who dont see what it really is about but they have bigger things in play than what some two bit football pundit things, they are an irrelevance, for instance do u really care what a rag workmate thinks about you? No because you know they are a moron and you see them as such thats how they view tnt and sky pundits etc and so should we. Be smug that you were lucky enough to be a supporter of gods own and dismiss them as the pathetic wastes of space they are.

 

[Coatigan]

Let me guess, it's imminent, again

Ole ole

 

[dadnlad]

That might not be correct.
It may well come down to how they interpret the actions.
The non compliance will certainly be like that.

the rules are most probably that lax they can be interpreted in a number of ways.
like treat other clubs with respect or words to that effect could mean anything you want

 

[Corky]

Our owner could easily buy both those companies, like i said tho they are above it, it irritates us or those of us who dont see what it really is about but they have bigger things in play than what some two bit football pundit things, they are an irrelevance, for instance do u really care what a rag workmate thinks about you? No because you know they are a moron and you see them as such thats how they view tnt and sky pundits etc and so should we. Be smug that you were lucky enough to be a supporter of gods own and dismiss them as the pathetic wastes of space they are.

Not sure it would be that easy just the £100b and monopoly's/antitrust stuff to negotiate.

 

[mancboy]

Not sure it would be that easy just the £100b and monopoly's/antitrust stuff to negotiate.

I meant from a financial standpoint not a regulatory one, 15b personal networth, 600b family networth and i don't think hed find it hard to raise investment if that was a route he wanted to take.

 

[The perfect fumble]

That might not be correct.
It may well come down to how they interpret the actions.
The non compliance will certainly be like that.

As I said, how things are interpreted will have a bearing on the outcome of the panel and of course the outcome will have been arrived at by weighing up the evidence, we wouldn't be here if our guilt or innocence was self evident. But the process shouldn't blind us to the fact that the truth of the matter does exist, whether the process results in us getting there or not. And of all the people involved only Khaldoon and Sheikh Mansour know the truth of it and it is that knowledge, probably more than any penalties we may or may not face, that will inform their decisions going forward.

 

[Bez]

I don't care what morons think. Remember, there's no point having an argument with an idiot anyway. Pep won the lot. Most of his achievements are from 2019 onwards so not in scope of the charges. He won it all on the pitch. 11 versus 11.

 

[dickie davies]

guess depends on what they got as evidence and vice versa for city

I have absolutely no doubt that if the decision is heavily against the club, the lawyers will be scanning every minute reason looking for anything that can be used in an appeal
Whereas, if it goes against the PL, just like UEFA at the CAS, they will accept it and walk away.
They won't have the stomach for another hearing

 

[HorlockofFiretopMountain]

Let me guess, it's imminent, again

A well informed chap called Godot told me he already has it in his possessiona and would share it next week....not long to wait now ;)

 

[LongsightM13]

I think this is speculation/theory I could buy into

I’m still convinced that the sudden and almost contemporaneous departure of these two City hating crooks last year was no coincidence, maybe City demanded sacrifices in exchange for not going public with something very damaging?

Exits of Lewis and Levy will mean less ‘banging on the table’ at Premier League meetings | Matt Hughes

North London’s boardroom reshuffles should mean a more collaborative approach at meetings, for now at least

www.theguardian.com

 

[LongsightM13]

In every other article until I die, City will be written as "Manchester City, who were charged with 115 accounts of breaking financial rules"
The club will be labelled with it forever

Yes, the process is the punishment

 

[HorlockofFiretopMountain]

If, as our detractors gleefully claim, Pep’s departure was linked to 115 there’s no way he’d be sticking around as an ambassador for the club.

It’s just hopeful bollocks and smacks of the usual desperation.

It may well be. When it falls in our favour the club, it'll be a great time for a refresh...
new budget, new manager, renewed vigour and ambition. Hopefully Maresca (if it is him) has ambition to make his own.mark and surpass Pep in some way, even of it is a tall order. The king is dead, long live the king!