Past: Shilton, Butcher
Present: Alexander-Arnold, Jesus
Always surprised when folk say Shilton was over rated.
Brian Clough himself said the player was worth 10 pts a season,and a first division title and two European cups must surely suggest he was a safe pair of hands.
Tbh I was too young to really rate his performances on a technical level and you may have better input from me there....
However Forest would never have won the title if they had kept with the erratic England u21 keeper John Middleton in goal..after a very good start to the season they went to Highbury where Middletons pathetic performance forced Clough and Taylor to secure Shiltons transfer.His out standing double save from big Mick Ferguson's headers at Coventry in the penultimate game of the season won Forest that title....ive spoken to those who were there that day and it's one of those misty eyed moments.. Ferguson himself,an adroit lethal header of a ball couldn't believe it..
I'm aware some on here didn't rate his England performances, but I always preferred him in goal over Ray Clemence..
Interesting choice tbh.
Terry butcher always looked to me to he a solid defensive unit in tandem with Russel Osman,and perhaps Ipswich town's success and respect late 70s early 80s suggest the player was decent.i never felt he let England down either.
The only error I can recall him making back in the day was when Dave Bennett made him look like an ale house player at Villa Park ,81 ' Fa cup semi final when he drew the foul which led to Paul Powers brilliant free kick goal. ;)
I always liked Jesus.and prefer to remember his time at City before the two damaging, serious injuries...I saw a lot of footage of his time in Brazil leading the line as their number 9,taking some frightening violent challenges from opposition as a teenager, and simply getting up and getting on with the job...and scoring some outrageous goals,before we signed him.
Our management,as expected,clipped his wings a bit, I mean by restricting the natural Brazilan flair, and turned him into a bit of a work horse,which of course led to success for the whole team...but maybe.just maybe neutered his goal scoring prowess....a point open to debate I guess.
I love skilful players and there were enough examples of his tight bsll control during his time here..the one that sticks out for me was Bournemouth away few yrs back( where they kicked him all match )
when Out on the left touchline nr corner flag their left full back came in to challenge and a quick Brazilian shuffle of ball and feet sent the defender flying into the hoardings...brilliant.
The most recent league match he has played he scored a stupendous goal against utd ..so I'll leave it there...
The other player you mentioned I can't stand .vastly over rated player in red.