Player thread: Fernando (2014/15)

[Shaelumstash]

I agree with this. The last time the manager was responsible for transfers was 2011 when we signed Aguero, Nasri, Dzeko and the season before bough Silva, Yaya and Kolarov.

Since we adopted the DoF model we've signed Scott Sinclair, Garcia, Rodwell, Fernando, and Mangala....

Maicon, Caballero, Sagna, Jovetic, Navas, Negredo (good for a few moths but then wanted to go home)....the total outlay I'd be scared to know what it was...but have we signed one key player since Aguero in 2011??

wow lets completely ignore that dof wasn't even in the office in the summer when maicon, nastasic, rodwell,Garcia, simclair were bought

Brian Marwood was in that role in 2012. Mancini criticising his performance in the role is one of the things that alienated him to the board and ended up getting him sacked.

 

[Wio Gumflapdinand]

I agree with this. The last time the manager was responsible for transfers was 2011 when we signed Aguero, Nasri, Dzeko and the season before bough Silva, Yaya and Kolarov.

Since we adopted the DoF model we've signed Scott Sinclair, Garcia, Rodwell, Fernando, and Mangala....

Maicon, Caballero, Sagna, Jovetic, Navas, Negredo (good for a few moths but then wanted to go home)....the total outlay I'd be scared to know what it was...but have we signed one key player since Aguero in 2011??

wow lets completely ignore that dof wasn't even in the office in the summer when maicon, nastasic, rodwell,Garcia, simclair were bought

Yeah but should we ignore the fact we have not signed one key player in 6/7 transfer windows and what must be near €200,000,000 spent maybe more I'm afraid to check

 

[Damanino]

Fernando needs to be played in a 433 formation and as a DM that has a CM partner (Fernandinho not Yaya) and also a AM (Yaya) with workrate and also two wide players with lots of hard work put in and track back.

We dont have the personel for this mostly so Fernando wont reach his best form here like ever. He doesnt belong into a midfield duo even if he has some good games in a duo. PL is very fast league, Fernando is a limited player that would do a limited role very well but only in a midfield trio not in duo.

He said himself back in August he came to make us more solid in CL defensively as we hoped to ditch 442 system in CL to stop being fucking open while still having two strikers that cannot get the ball vs quality opponents but in return we are bad defensively.

In a 451 system as a deep DM if the team works hard, tracks back (wingers, att MF-s, strikers everybody...) then Fernando can be a good asset. But even then he never gonnba be as dominant or important as someone like Matic.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Fernando needs to be played in a 433 formation and as a DM that has a CM partner (Fernandinho not Yaya) and also a AM (Yaya) with workrate and also two wide players with lots of hard work put in and track back.

We dont have the personel for this mostly so Fernando wont reach his best form here like ever. He doesnt belong into a midfield duo even if he has some good games in a duo. PL is very fast league, Fernando is a limited player that would do a limited role very well but only in a midfield trio not in duo.

He said himself back in August he came to make us more solid in CL defensively as we hoped to ditch 442 system in CL to stop being fucking open while still having two strikers that cannot get the ball vs quality opponents but in return we are bad defensively.

In a 451 system as a deep DM if the team works hard, tracks back (wingers, att MF-s, strikers everybody...) then Fernando can be a good asset. But even then he never gonnba be as dominant or important as someone like Matic.

Of course we have the personnel. Milner is an ideal LDM or RDM. Fernandino RDM. Kompany could play in one of these roles too if he bucked up. as could Kolarov or Zaba.
The thing is Fernando isn't good enough as the central DM. For one he would have to push up the pitch if not challenged - he wouldn't know what the meaning of "push up the pitch" judging by his January performances. A forward pass further than 3 yards would be challenging too!

 

[MeatHunterrr]

Maicon, Caballero, Sagna, Jovetic, Navas, Negredo (good for a few moths but then wanted to go home)....the total outlay I'd be scared to know what it was...but have we signed one key player since Aguero in 2011??

wow lets completely ignore that dof wasn't even in the office in the summer when maicon, nastasic, rodwell,Garcia, simclair were bought

Yeah but should we ignore the fact we have not signed one key player in 6/7 transfer windows and what must be near €200,000,000 spent maybe more I'm afraid to check

City have spent approx £180M in that time.

 

[bluechampion7891]

wow lets completely ignore that dof wasn't even in the office in the summer when maicon, nastasic, rodwell,Garcia, simclair were bought

Yeah but should we ignore the fact we have not signed one key player in 6/7 transfer windows and what must be near €200,000,000 spent maybe more I'm afraid to check

City have spent approx £180M in that time.

my point wasnt about spending...my point was that most of these posts ignore that txiki wasnt there for around a third of transfers yet gets blamed for it

 

[Wretched Vengeance]

Has he not already been dripping about the pace of the prem and how "everyone runs a lot?" I think I read that in some fucking thing.

If so, best he unfucks himself at the rush and gets used to the prem as it aint gonna change any time soon.

 

[Hungarian blue]

It's funny to read the first two pages of this thread. I still think that he will become a very good player for us.

But of course he's a limited player, a 'specialist', thus we don't really need him for the majority of our games. But 12m for him is not a bad business in any case, prices like that are being thrown away by literally every PL teams, oftentimes for much weaker players than Fernando.

 

[VOOMER]

I agree with this. The last time the manager was responsible for transfers was 2011 when we signed Aguero, Nasri, Dzeko and the season before bough Silva, Yaya and Kolarov.

Since we adopted the DoF model we've signed Scott Sinclair, Garcia, Rodwell, Fernando, and Mangala....

Maicon, Caballero, Sagna, Jovetic, Navas, Negredo (good for a few moths but then wanted to go home)....the total outlay I'd be scared to know what it was...but have we signed one key player since Aguero in 2011??

wow lets completely ignore that dof wasn't even in the office in the summer when maicon, nastasic, rodwell,Garcia, simclair were bought

What? Mancini actually put his head on the chopping block by mentioning Marwood, it was a hatchet job on Mancini.

 

[Instant_Offense]

wow lets completely ignore that dof wasn't even in the office in the summer when maicon, nastasic, rodwell,Garcia, simclair were bought

Yeah but should we ignore the fact we have not signed one key player in 6/7 transfer windows and what must be near €200,000,000 spent maybe more I'm afraid to check

City have spent approx £180M in that time.

And don't have a definitive upgrade in the lot. Fern over Barry is a marginal improvement, the rest have just been shifting players. We have also neglected to buy a single player whose value has appreciably improved since their purchase. We would get, and have gotten, less for Savic, Nasty, Sinclair, Garcia, Rodwell, Fernandihno, Navas, Jovetic, Mangala, Willy, and Fernando than what we paid for them. Not an especially impressive track record.