I would assume he is injured. We don’t tend to comment on injuries anywhere for young players. Nacho was missing in action for most of last year and we were all in the dark speculating over work permits and dodgy deals but he popped up in the EDS at the tail end of the season and banged in a load of goals.
Keep some faith!
He's not been involved in a single EDS squad since he joined, even when fit, so I'd not expect any injury to be the reason. He's simply been kept away from the EDS, which is odd. Only the UYL games.
The club / management have given him his debut in the League cup and he got on against Tottenham not so long ago! He can’t be that bad if he has been given a sniff of first team football.
I agree that he would probably benefit from a loan but I cant imagine that he has turned shit since the tottenham game. He must have been rated up to that point to get on in a Prem game.
He needs to have been at the club for two years.As he turns 19 at the start of Feb does he technically become home grown as he will have been in an English academy for 3 years between 16 and 21? This qualifies for the champs league squad?
As he turns 19 at the start of Feb does he technically become home grown as he will have been in an English academy for 3 years between 16 and 21? This qualifies for the champs league squad?
As he turns 19 at the start of Feb does he technically become home grown as he will have been in an English academy for 3 years between 16 and 21? This qualifies for the champs league squad?
Yes and no, it's between 15 & 21 (not 16) which means he's eligible for the A list. He's not been here the required 2 years to make the B list.He needs to have been at the club for two years.
Yes and no, it's between 15 & 21 (not 16) which means he's eligible for the A list. He's not been here the required 2 years to make the B list.
43.04 A "club-trained player" is a player who, between the age of 15 (or the start of the season during which he turns 15) and 21 (or the end of the season during which he turns 21), and irrespective of his nationality and age, has been registered with his current club for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons (i.e. a period starting with the first official match of the relevant national championship and ending with the last official match of that relevant national championship) or of 36 months.
43.05 An "association-trained player" is a player who, between the age of 15 (or the start of the season during which the player turns 15) and 21 (or the end of the season during which the player turns 21), and irrespective of his nationality and age, has been registered with a club or with other clubs affiliated to the same association as that of his current
43.11 A player may be registered on List B if he is born on or after 1 January 1994 and has been eligible to play for the club concerned for any uninterrupted period of two years since his 15th birthday by the time he is registered with UEFA. Players aged 16 may be registered on List B if they have been registered with the participating club for the previous two years without interruption.
http://www.uefa.org/MultimediaFiles.../Regulations/02/23/57/51/2235751_DOWNLOAD.pdf
Roberts is suffering from the same thing every 18-20 year old suffers with at a top club; there's no clear pathway to the first team. This is the prime example of why we need B teams.
Roberts is stuck in limbo at the moment. He's viewed by the club as too good for the EDS, but not good enough for the first team. He needs to go out on loan in January, probably to a Championship club.
Do any of our loans actually work out?
Always seem like they hardly get any minutes.
A very good point and its certainly done him no harm,as he looks a very good player in a Spurs team that could become one of the best they have had for years.I was surprised to learn that he now had more than 100 games under his belt,through his longish loan spell at the MK`s.Only a small percentage of loans work out, they're such a risk. Unfortunately loans are the only chance these players get a chance of first team football. This is why B teams are essential, too many young players at top clubs are not playing first team football at a key point in their development.
You only have to look at Dele Alli to see the benefits of playing regular first team football between 17 and 19.
It's not quite that cut & dried though. Last season he only started 2 matches in the league and made a few sub appearances late on (quite a few just to run down the clock). After November he barely appeared anywhere. http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/patrick-roberts/leistungsdaten/spieler/225452/plus/0?saison=2014Should have loaned him straight back to Fulham when we signed him, they played him, and they would still be playing him.