Player thread: Samir Nasri (2014/15)

[cibaman]

Re: Nasri - future captain/vice captain material

Apparently most rugby union captains used to play at fly half or centre, Those were regarded as the "clever" players. Often well educated. Cast in the role of army officers leading the troops.

Nowadays most rugby union captains at the top level play in the back row. One the main reasons being that the players in those positions tend to be nearest the referee, especially when the game stops, eg for a scrum to be formed . One of the main attributes required of a rugby union captain is the ability to "manage the referee". To be constantly in the ref's ear, lobbying for the team, but without rubbing him up the wrong way. When the British Lions team to tour Australia in 2013 was announced and Sam Warburton, the Welsh flanker, was appointed captain and Chris Robshaw the England captain failed to make the team, one of the reasons cited in the press was that Warburton was far superior at managing the referee.

Nasri has many qualities but isnt he just a bit too abrasive for the role?

 

[martinmcfc]

Re: Nasri - future captain/vice captain material

Yeah, he's currently a regular until someone better comes along. I'm not saying he's shit, he's played his part in this current squad without pulling up any trees and i certainly wouldn't make him captain.

Put it this way if either the Hazard or Sanchez deals had gone through you could cut that down to around 40% of the games, i'd have both of them in front of him, that's for sure.

Totally agree with the above and you can put Fabregas into the mix aswell (£30 million - absolute steal). I like Nasri when he's on form but unfortunately for us this doesn't happen enough. Wonder how many people praising him after last night (credit where credit's due) were criticising him on Saturday during the Hull game when he couldn't clear the first man from a corner after umpteen attempts!!! Decent player but when someone else comes along in the summer (hopefully) i won't be too disappointed to see him go as i don't think he's been great value for money and too many times has been found wanting in games.

He had only returned from injury. If you are going down that route you might of criticised Kun as well for not getting back amongst the goals when he returned from injury as well.

Pointless statement when you are comparing scoring goals to being able to clear the first man from a set piece situation.

 

[Blue and true]

Re: Nasri - future captain/vice captain material

Nasri is one of those players whereby if you don't truly understand football - i.e if you're not a purist, then you can't truly appreciate just how special a player he is. He's very much the antithesis of a youtube player. We wax lyrical about Silva; justly, I should add, but I honestly feel if Nasri shifts the gears a few more levels he'd be comfortably ahead of him.

 

[bitsmith]

Re: Nasri - future captain/vice captain material

People not seeing how important Nasri is for this team are clueless.

 

[bitsmith]

Re: Nasri - future captain/vice captain material

Those saying they wouldn't want him next to them in the trenches spectacularly fail to appreciate what it takes to survive in such situations.

They wouldn't be anywhere near the trenches themselves.

 

[TrueBlue1705]

Re: Nasri - future captain/vice captain material

Those saying they wouldn't want him next to them in the trenches spectacularly fail to appreciate what it takes to survive in such situations.

They wouldn't be anywhere near the trenches themselves.

In the past he's been a bit of a moaner and shown some weakness when things haven't been going the teams way - Maybe he's matured, I am seeing something different in him - would still be much more confident with Milner or Zab in the trenches with me. As vice captain material both the afore mentioned should be ahead of Nasri.

 

[Blue Til Death]

Re: Nasri - future captain/vice captain material

Nasri needs to concentrate on being brilliant, Vinnie will take care of Captain business as long as he is at the club, hes a great Captain and he has the respect of the team, the fans and also the opposition...!

 

[ecviper]

Re: Nasri - future captain/vice captain material

Apparently most rugby union captains used to play at fly half or centre, Those were regarded as the "clever" players. Often well educated. Cast in the role of army officers leading the troops.

Nowadays most rugby union captains at the top level play in the back row. One the main reasons being that the players in those positions tend to be nearest the referee, especially when the game stops, eg for a scrum to be formed . One of the main attributes required of a rugby union captain is the ability to "manage the referee". To be constantly in the ref's ear, lobbying for the team, but without rubbing him up the wrong way. When the British Lions team to tour Australia in 2013 was announced and Sam Warburton, the Welsh flanker, was appointed captain and Chris Robshaw the England captain failed to make the team, one of the reasons cited in the press was that Warburton was far superior at managing the referee.

Nasri has many qualities but isnt he just a bit too abrasive for the role?

Understand what you mean but it can work in our advantage when many of the referees are quite easily swayed by pressure. Hair patch from the rags does this all the time and gets away with it. Not saying Nasri will get away with it too but it does help influence the referee, especially those like Oliver etc.

 

[bitsmith]

Re: Nasri - future captain/vice captain material

Those saying they wouldn't want him next to them in the trenches spectacularly fail to appreciate what it takes to survive in such situations.

They wouldn't be anywhere near the trenches themselves.

In the past he's been a bit of a moaner and shown some weakness when things haven't been going the teams way - Maybe he's matured, I am seeing something different in him - would still be much more confident with Milner or Zab in the trenches with me. As vice captain material both the afore mentioned should be ahead of Nasri.

Milner would never sleep in trenches. Never ever :D

 

[ZZmaestro]

Re: Nasri - future captain/vice captain material

Oh boy, Sammy's having a go at the chavs now and starting mind games.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...l-news/man-citys-samir-nasri-dimisses-8634728

I think i like him even more after that. This is the talking of someone with balls and great hunger, the talk of a team's leader.
Thankfully, he delivers on the pitch to backup his big mouth, otherwise such talking could come and bite you in the ass.