Player thread: Vincent Kompany (2014/15)

[raymondkl92]

i think he's fallen out with Pellegrini, as a few of the players have over Pellegrini's stubbornness to change things. Granted he's not playing well, but apart from a couple of players in the team, who isnt?

Regardless of who the player is, if he's playing thia badly, he should be dropped,like Pellegrini did with Hart last year. Trouble is, there's no one to replace him that's any better currently.

Boyata...

 

[blueplan]

VK was not at fault for both LFC's goals. His high line defense was not penetrated. Just that 2 similar shots from outside the box were not saved.

 

[mosssideblue]

i think he's fallen out with Pellegrini, as a few of the players have over Pellegrini's stubbornness to change things. Granted he's not playing well, but apart from a couple of players in the team, who isnt?

Regardless of who the player is, if he's playing thia badly, he should be dropped,like Pellegrini did with Hart last year. Trouble is, there's no one to replace him that's any better currently.

And how would you know that

 

[Bluekiwi]

VK was not at fault for both LFC's goals. His high line defense was not penetrated. Just that 2 similar shots from outside the box were not saved.

Have to disagree about their first goal. He was disposed near the half way line from a throw in if my memory serves me correct.

 

[blueplan]

At one time or another our defenders are being 'vilified' or blamed for our poor performances. Perhaps the problem lies not in our defenders.
When we dropped Hart to the bench last season did the whole team benefit from that decision?

 

[blueplan]

VK was not at fault for both LFC's goals. His high line defense was not penetrated. Just that 2 similar shots from outside the box were not saved.

Have to disagree about their first goal. He was disposed near the half way line from a throw in if my memory serves me correct.

We still had numbers defending and the shot was outside the box. Hart had LOS, was set & ready for the shot.

The 2nd goal is the Bigger Question.

 

[Chippy_boy]

VK was not at fault for both LFC's goals. His high line defense was not penetrated. Just that 2 similar shots from outside the box were not saved.

Have to disagree about their first goal. He was disposed near the half way line from a throw in if my memory serves me correct.

100% correct. How on earth anyone could look at that goal and conclude it was not Vincent's fault, is beyond me. The blatant fact is, had he cleared the ball, or worst case, taken the man out, the goal would not have happened. It was a dismal bit of footballing to be honest.

 

[Deleted member 58678]

I do not think it is a Kompany problem, like i do not think Mangala's erratic play (especially early doors) is his problem neither.

There are no defensive systems in place within our tactics. The tactic is 'try and nick the ball early' which means [players get booked to often and] players are running out of the defensive line causing huge gaps and players don't slide to close those gaps and don't cover those running out. Players are far too far away from each other, centre halves should always be close together and ours aren't no matter who plays. Defensive midfielders do not cover for full backs (or they don't drop back with the centre halves to make a back 3) when they've made runs forward in an attacking move. There is a distinct lack of communication because players do not know what they should be telling each other. We are wide open in midfield and teams just exploit the space we allow them. This then puts the defence under huge strain as they are just being attacked from anywhere, often. We don't press the ball high up the pitch (or anywhere for that matter) and we don't cynically foul so teams just have a free run through our midfield directly at our confidence shot, disorganised defence.

We look like Arsenal2.0 from the last ten years. Pretty football with some pretty goals but fairly boring and cannot defend.

Kompany's form is just a symptom of this. But now even basic things are looking shoddy because his confidence is shot to pieces.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

VK was not at fault for both LFC's goals. His high line defense was not penetrated. Just that 2 similar shots from outside the box were not saved.

Have to disagree about their first goal. He was disposed near the half way line from a throw in if my memory serves me correct.

We still had numbers defending and the shot was outside the box. Hart had LOS, was set & ready for the shot.

The 2nd goal is the Bigger Question.

Sorry are you blaming Hart for 2 absolute screamers in to the top corner

 

[BigOscar]

VK was not at fault for both LFC's goals. His high line defense was not penetrated. Just that 2 similar shots from outside the box were not saved.

Have to disagree about their first goal. He was disposed near the half way line from a throw in if my memory serves me correct.

100% correct. How on earth anyone could look at that goal and conclude it was not Vincent's fault, is beyond me. The blatant fact is, had he cleared the ball, or worst case, taken the man out, the goal would not have happened. It was a dismal bit of footballing to be honest.

Well I'd blame Fernandinho more, given that he was the one who sold Kompany short from an easy pass, then completely failed to prevent Henderson coming inside and shooting, but Kompany probably still should have won the 50/50. There was still a long way to go after that before the ball went in though.