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Player Topic: Raheem Sterling (2015/16)
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Unfortunately with the Villa game and last night it's hard to defend his finishing.Finishing of a £5m player.
I'd still rather give him more than 4 months before acting like a **** about him. That's not directed at you by the way.
He's a very talented player and will become much better.
When we had all of the fuss leading up to signing him, the increased bids etc, I did wonder if he was the right player for us, particularly at the price we paid. . After the Burnley and Barca defeats last season the press reported that the club intended offloading players that were deemed to lack the right mentality (eg Nasri) and bring in stronger characters. That seemed to me to be the right approach so I was surprised that we went for Sterling.
He could yet prove to be an inspired signing, but I'm not sure he is what we need at the moment.
When we had all of the fuss leading up to signing him, the increased bids etc, I did wonder if he was the right player for us, particularly at the price we paid. . After the Burnley and Barca defeats last season the press reported that the club intended offloading players that were deemed to lack the right mentality (eg Nasri) and bring in stronger characters. That seemed to me to be the right approach so I was surprised that we went for Sterling.
He could yet prove to be an inspired signing, but I'm not sure he is what we need at the moment.
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:)Unfortunately with the Villa game and last night it's hard to defend his finishing.
I'd still rather give him more than 4 months before acting like a **** about him. That's not directed at you by the way.
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You must think De Bruyne is utter crap then since he's been worse than Sterling for over a month now.
He's not been great, but still been better than Sterling. At least you can see KDB has the technically ability to change a game with a pass. Last night for example...wasn't his best game but still created all our chances, putting the best chance on a plate for Sterling who couldn't hit a barn door from 4 yards.
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Firstly, I must disclose that I am Spurs fan, but I’ve been reading this forum for a while as a guest and felt compelled to sign up to give my opinion on this particular topic…I’ve always got on well with City fans, you have a fantastic club with a great official YouTube channel (tunnel cam, inside city etc.) and I’m personally pleased to see the progress the club has made in terms of upping the Manchester rivalry with United…
With regards to Raheem Sterling, I’ve kept tabs on him since he was a youth player, as there was a point where he could have joined the Tottenham Academy a few years ago but decided to stay with QPR, and then of course he joined Liverpool later on…
I have always been impressed with his speed, elegance and directness, but I have to be honest and say that I have always thought that the key thing he lacks is composure in front of goal…
I also can’t forget that funny quote that Brendan Rodgers said about his finishing last season, after the game when Liverpool did us 3-0 at the Lane, when he said that for one particular chance, Sterling had displayed the dribbling skills of Ricky Villa but the finishing skills of Ricky Gervais…
You’ve seen it with Liverpool, with England (I think he has only scored once for England) and now with City. However, the problem is that given the level City are now at, the stakes are HIGH, you need to hit the ground RUNNING, and City are a team who, quite rightly given their financial expenditure on players, have owners who EXPECT to win EVERY game.
It’s a completely different ball game to what Sterling is used to, because with Liverpool and England, he was afforded more patience because the expectations are far lower.
I fully respect ALL of the opinions that I have seen on here with respect to Sterling, both those who are criticising him and those who say that he needs more time to settle in etc.…
I must however confess that I sympathise a slight but more with those who are being more critical of him, or should I say, critical of the club’s decision to purchase him.
The bottom line is that City have reached a level where every player, especially attacking players, have to be firing on all cylinders and there is no time or place for someone to “learn on the job”…you wouldn’t expect that at Barcelona or Real Madrid, and this is the level that City need to aspire to given the level of their investment.
If we’re to be honest, the way that Sterling is currently playing, with so much inconsistency, I would say that if he was a player that had just come through the city academy (rather than for a massive transfer fee), and came into the team with such a lack of composure in front of goal, you would probably seriously consider looking to loan him out to a smaller club (with less pressure i.e. an Everton or a Liverpool) for a season or two, so that he can develop some more confidence and composure in front of goal, before bringing him back into the side with that increased confidence and composure. I do believe that Sterling has great ability and huge potential, but looking at it from an impartial perspective (i.e. a supporter of another team), he is far too inconsistent to be playing week in week out in a team that are favourites to win the league; a team on that level can’t afford to carry players like that, and if I’m being brutally honest, if he was at Spurs instead of City and was playing like on current form, I wouldn’t put him ahead of Dembélé, Eriksen and Son.
And I think what I’ve said above just highlights a key issue; perhaps this move has a come a couple of seasons too early for him; perhaps it would have been best for him to stay at Liverpool for a couple more seasons, learn his trade more, then move to a club like City where he would be at a level of increased composure in front of goal. The problem with him moving to City at this point is that it is going hurt the club and his own development if he continues to play week in and week out to learn his trade. Metaphorically speaking, in a team of world-class artists (Silva, Aguero, Yaya etc.), can you afford to also include a promising graduate (Sterling) that needs a bit more experience to reach the level of the others?
I do feel for Sterling because he is clearly a player a great talent and he was clearly just showing ambition by wanting to better himself by moving to City, and let’s not kid ourselves, he is definitely a cut above the likes of Sinclair, Johnson etc., but as an attacking player at a team challenging for the title, you need to deliver from the off and there are no room for passengers…he could probably get away with it more as a defensive player etc., but definitely not as an attacking player who through no fault of his own, went for a massive transfer fee.
Given that it is not realistic that City will ever loan him out, I think City really need to look at how other big clubs tend to handle such players (i.e. talented youngsters where it is apparent that they are not quite ready for the top, top level). These types tend to be brought in and out of the team rather than starting week in and week out, as this takes the pressure off and gives them more motivation to seize their chance when they get it. Alex Ferguson was a master at this and from reading his latest book, he consciously did this with the likes of Scholes, Beckham, Ronaldo etc.…Arsene Wenger has done the same with the likes of Walcott, Ox, Wilshere etc..I think City really need to do the same with Raheem because right now he is drowning under the pressure, it’s so obvious to see and I genuinely do feel for him…he got completely swallowed up in the Newcastle game, and it was the same against Liverpool…
I think Sterling is the kind of player who either needs to be playing week in and week out at a club where he can be afforded the time to learn to develop that consistency etc., such as a Liverpool, or my own club (Tottenham), where the pressure is less, or he has to come in and out of the team if he is to play for a club such as Man City or a Chelsea (and I hate to say it, but Arsenal as well), where you really have to hit the ground RUNNING as a young player, so you bring them in and out of the team so they realize that they really have to take that opportunity and be at their absolute best when they get that chance, and take them out of the team to take the pressure off.
This is just my opinion and I could be totally wrong, and I wish Raheem all the best as him doing well at City is beneficial for England, but I just think this move has come too early…I also find it interesting that no other club expressed any serious interest in him, which I think was largely down to such a huge transfer fee for a player who is no doubt very talented, but not quite ready to produce the goods for a top, top club on a consistent week in, week out basis.
With regards to Raheem Sterling, I’ve kept tabs on him since he was a youth player, as there was a point where he could have joined the Tottenham Academy a few years ago but decided to stay with QPR, and then of course he joined Liverpool later on…
I have always been impressed with his speed, elegance and directness, but I have to be honest and say that I have always thought that the key thing he lacks is composure in front of goal…
I also can’t forget that funny quote that Brendan Rodgers said about his finishing last season, after the game when Liverpool did us 3-0 at the Lane, when he said that for one particular chance, Sterling had displayed the dribbling skills of Ricky Villa but the finishing skills of Ricky Gervais…
You’ve seen it with Liverpool, with England (I think he has only scored once for England) and now with City. However, the problem is that given the level City are now at, the stakes are HIGH, you need to hit the ground RUNNING, and City are a team who, quite rightly given their financial expenditure on players, have owners who EXPECT to win EVERY game.
It’s a completely different ball game to what Sterling is used to, because with Liverpool and England, he was afforded more patience because the expectations are far lower.
I fully respect ALL of the opinions that I have seen on here with respect to Sterling, both those who are criticising him and those who say that he needs more time to settle in etc.…
I must however confess that I sympathise a slight but more with those who are being more critical of him, or should I say, critical of the club’s decision to purchase him.
The bottom line is that City have reached a level where every player, especially attacking players, have to be firing on all cylinders and there is no time or place for someone to “learn on the job”…you wouldn’t expect that at Barcelona or Real Madrid, and this is the level that City need to aspire to given the level of their investment.
If we’re to be honest, the way that Sterling is currently playing, with so much inconsistency, I would say that if he was a player that had just come through the city academy (rather than for a massive transfer fee), and came into the team with such a lack of composure in front of goal, you would probably seriously consider looking to loan him out to a smaller club (with less pressure i.e. an Everton or a Liverpool) for a season or two, so that he can develop some more confidence and composure in front of goal, before bringing him back into the side with that increased confidence and composure. I do believe that Sterling has great ability and huge potential, but looking at it from an impartial perspective (i.e. a supporter of another team), he is far too inconsistent to be playing week in week out in a team that are favourites to win the league; a team on that level can’t afford to carry players like that, and if I’m being brutally honest, if he was at Spurs instead of City and was playing like on current form, I wouldn’t put him ahead of Dembélé, Eriksen and Son.
And I think what I’ve said above just highlights a key issue; perhaps this move has a come a couple of seasons too early for him; perhaps it would have been best for him to stay at Liverpool for a couple more seasons, learn his trade more, then move to a club like City where he would be at a level of increased composure in front of goal. The problem with him moving to City at this point is that it is going hurt the club and his own development if he continues to play week in and week out to learn his trade. Metaphorically speaking, in a team of world-class artists (Silva, Aguero, Yaya etc.), can you afford to also include a promising graduate (Sterling) that needs a bit more experience to reach the level of the others?
I do feel for Sterling because he is clearly a player a great talent and he was clearly just showing ambition by wanting to better himself by moving to City, and let’s not kid ourselves, he is definitely a cut above the likes of Sinclair, Johnson etc., but as an attacking player at a team challenging for the title, you need to deliver from the off and there are no room for passengers…he could probably get away with it more as a defensive player etc., but definitely not as an attacking player who through no fault of his own, went for a massive transfer fee.
Given that it is not realistic that City will ever loan him out, I think City really need to look at how other big clubs tend to handle such players (i.e. talented youngsters where it is apparent that they are not quite ready for the top, top level). These types tend to be brought in and out of the team rather than starting week in and week out, as this takes the pressure off and gives them more motivation to seize their chance when they get it. Alex Ferguson was a master at this and from reading his latest book, he consciously did this with the likes of Scholes, Beckham, Ronaldo etc.…Arsene Wenger has done the same with the likes of Walcott, Ox, Wilshere etc..I think City really need to do the same with Raheem because right now he is drowning under the pressure, it’s so obvious to see and I genuinely do feel for him…he got completely swallowed up in the Newcastle game, and it was the same against Liverpool…
I think Sterling is the kind of player who either needs to be playing week in and week out at a club where he can be afforded the time to learn to develop that consistency etc., such as a Liverpool, or my own club (Tottenham), where the pressure is less, or he has to come in and out of the team if he is to play for a club such as Man City or a Chelsea (and I hate to say it, but Arsenal as well), where you really have to hit the ground RUNNING as a young player, so you bring them in and out of the team so they realize that they really have to take that opportunity and be at their absolute best when they get that chance, and take them out of the team to take the pressure off.
This is just my opinion and I could be totally wrong, and I wish Raheem all the best as him doing well at City is beneficial for England, but I just think this move has come too early…I also find it interesting that no other club expressed any serious interest in him, which I think was largely down to such a huge transfer fee for a player who is no doubt very talented, but not quite ready to produce the goods for a top, top club on a consistent week in, week out basis.
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He's not been great, but still been better than Sterling. At least you can see KDB has the technically ability to change a game with a pass. Last night for example...wasn't his best game but still created all our chances, putting the best chance on a plate for Sterling who couldn't hit a barn door from 4 yards.
Spot on. What I would say in support of both though is that they thrive in space and on the counter, and they are therefore a difficult fit for a team that usually monopolises possession and plays the game on the front foot. I thought KDB was weak last night, not least in the lead up to the goal when he pathetically allowed Pogba to waltz past him from a standing start, but as you point out he still set up all of our best chances. I'm far more concerned with Sterling, whose lack of technique, composure and awareness, are staggering at times.
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Nuff said.
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Very young and very talented this lad with a huge future for us but fuck me, his finishing at present is absolutely woeful.
He is not alone in that either!
He is not alone in that either!
BillyShears
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Very young and very talented this lad with a huge future for us but fuck me, his finishing at present is absolutely woeful.
He is not alone in that either!
Seems baffling to me how people expect him to be the finished article at 20, having been at our club for a handful of months. Too many falling into the 'transfer fee' trap of thinking "well he cost that much he needs to deliver right now". For me he's an incredible talent, one we're very lucky to have gotten. He will go on to justify his fee ten times over in the coming seasons.
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