I hope he's not done a Torres in terms of defending. He looks so poor. Positionally all over the place, rushing out of defense, lunging widly into tackles.
Was absolutely bizarre watching his performance in the first half. Like a man who'd just wandered out onto the pitch having never really played at a high level before. His decision making was of a Sunday league standard. No idea what's going on with him but he needs to sort it out asap.
Agree mate, I think he often tries too hard, feels the need to step up, and often gets caught out, Im genuinely worried, as hes been poor for over a year now, and we can't afford to carry passengers.
Put him back in a defence with a lower defensive line and he would be fine. I don't think he suits the way we now play and never fully will do in all honesty.
Fully agree with post. Vincent is getting the brunt of a lot of criticism over the past months. As I see it,we are playing too far up with a mid field who are either slow, cannot/will not tackle or just lazy and Vincent is trying to do two/three people's jobs. The solution is not to replace him but to get in players in midfield who are hungry, hard but fair, quick, savvy and can bolster the defence when required and step up further forward when needed (excluding Silva who is the best in the world at his job). Getting rid of Vincent will not, of itself, solve the current shambles of a defence, in my humble opinion.Put him back in a defence with a lower defensive line and he would be fine. I don't think he suits the way we now play and never fully will do in all honesty.
I hope he's not done a Torres in terms of defending. He looks so poor. Positionally all over the place, rushing out of defense, lunging widly into tackles.
You don't need to be a phenomenal athlete to sit infront of the defence. Ideally, you need a bit of pace to screen effectively (something neither Fernando and Garcia could do) He has that.
Another quintessential "blame everyone but the culprit" post. This is what I've been complaining about.Fully agree with post. Vincent is getting the brunt of a lot of criticism over the past months. As I see it,we are playing too far up with a mid field who are either slow, cannot/will not tackle or just lazy and Vincent is trying to do two/three people's jobs. The solution is not to replace him but to get in players in midfield who are hungry, hard but fair, quick, savvy and can bolster the defence when required and step up further forward when needed (excluding Silva who is the best in the world at his job). Getting rid of Vincent will not, of itself, solve the current shambles of a defence, in my humble opinion.
Yet he bullied Costa and Rooney early last season. Maybe too many injuries. Too much going on off the pitch. I do think our defence is badly exposed andIt's hard to fathom but for whatever reason he's not looked the same player for a long time. I guess the way we play isn't helping. All too often the opposition just need to catch us in possession, or have our attacking break down and a big hoof down the middle for a big fast striker to run onto seems to kill us. Seems there's something more than personal defensive inadequecies of individual members of our back four, going on.