Plzen ticketing issue! Not a happy bunny

Blue Mist said:
Didsbury Dave said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
So having joined the cup schemes etc I thought I was getting a half decent deal. Have never slagged the club for pricing etc as I understand they have to make money however when I get in work this afternoon and find out that I could get tickets for £15 for Plzen and I have paid £28 I find it a little galling to say the least.
Surely this has to be brought up/highlighted or maybe it has.
It's not the price of £28 as I thpought that fine,it's the fact that any blue in the sports and social can buy a ticket for £15 which has annoyed me somewhat.
Years and years of loyalty apparently mean fuck all.
Just proves that we are seen as cash cows at times.

Why not price it at £15 for cup scheme members????

If you bought a meal in a restaurant which you were a regular in and someone at the next table had cut a 'two for one' voucher out and go the same meal for half price, you'd just shrug your shoulders.

It's effectively the same principle. The club wouldn't be doing this if it was sold out. They are doing what they can to expand the fan base by getting people in and interested. I know it irks a bit but that's the simple economics of it. I understand the point that if they lowered the price for everyone they'd get more in, but I suspect they've worked hard to get good gates and revenues for these games and been a bit disappointed with the uptake.

This game being a dead rubber doesn't help them of course, and neither does our prior failures.

I've a feeling that our passion for this trophy may be ignited following qualification. Imagine a two legger against Barca, or knocking man united out in the quarters over two legs.

And along comes the ridiculous argument. If I went to a restaurant and paid the stated price I would not moan about someone else having a 2 for one IF I had also had the chance of two for one. This is the opposite. I was asked to join a scheme and have the FULL amount deducted. Now that I am aware there are cheaper offers I am prevented from taking advantage purely because of my loyalty. I never had the chance of a two for one/reduced price ticket.
Second. How exactly does it expand the fan base ?
Someone who couldn't be arsed going to a 'dead rubber' as you put it for £25-£28 is not suddenly going to think 'Tell you what, I will buy a £45 ticket for another match. If City are lucky they will spend a fiver on an overpriced pie and give another fiver to a tout on a half and half.
Meanwhile I think twice about buying in bulk for next seasons rip off - sorry cup scheme.

No. It's exactly the same scenario. The restaurant puts the 2 for 1 offer in the paper because it wants new regular customers and it wants bums on seats to generate income that it wouldn't get otherwise. The guys on the next table didn't do anything special, they weren't being rewarded. They just happened to read the paper or magazine that particular day. It's the harsh truth I'm afraid. City don't need to offer you a loss leader, or me, becuase we are regulars. And you decided in advance that you were happy to happy the prices they offered and you prepaid.

It expands the fanbase if it attracts a customer who enjoys it and wants to come back, just like the restaurant guy. Simple stuff.

I'm not saying this is right or wrong, I'm just saying its simple business. Like it or not, you're a customer.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
jrb said:
I dread to think what will happen if we get a 61,000 seater stadium.

There will be a lot more £15 tickets jrb.

I'm not convinced on that.

The discussion around the marketing executives boardroom table now will be along the lines of

Executive 1- "We had a good year revenue wise last year in CL, that bundle sold well and we then managed to shift the unsold tickets to clubs and local councils for £15. What about this year we slip a £10 on the bundles and sell any remaining for £20."

Executive 2 " sounds good, I'm sure the loyal lot wont mind that, what extra revenue are we talking about ?"

Executive 1 " about £0.5m"

Executive 2 " Brilliant. That's Aguero's wages paid for 2 weeks and a £10k bonus for us!"
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Blue Mist said:
Didsbury Dave said:
If you bought a meal in a restaurant which you were a regular in and someone at the next table had cut a 'two for one' voucher out and go the same meal for half price, you'd just shrug your shoulders.

It's effectively the same principle. The club wouldn't be doing this if it was sold out. They are doing what they can to expand the fan base by getting people in and interested. I know it irks a bit but that's the simple economics of it. I understand the point that if they lowered the price for everyone they'd get more in, but I suspect they've worked hard to get good gates and revenues for these games and been a bit disappointed with the uptake.

This game being a dead rubber doesn't help them of course, and neither does our prior failures.

I've a feeling that our passion for this trophy may be ignited following qualification. Imagine a two legger against Barca, or knocking man united out in the quarters over two legs.

And along comes the ridiculous argument. If I went to a restaurant and paid the stated price I would not moan about someone else having a 2 for one IF I had also had the chance of two for one. This is the opposite. I was asked to join a scheme and have the FULL amount deducted. Now that I am aware there are cheaper offers I am prevented from taking advantage purely because of my loyalty. I never had the chance of a two for one/reduced price ticket.
Second. How exactly does it expand the fan base ?
Someone who couldn't be arsed going to a 'dead rubber' as you put it for £25-£28 is not suddenly going to think 'Tell you what, I will buy a £45 ticket for another match. If City are lucky they will spend a fiver on an overpriced pie and give another fiver to a tout on a half and half.
Meanwhile I think twice about buying in bulk for next seasons rip off - sorry cup scheme.

No. It's exactly the same scenario. The restaurant puts the 2 for 1 offer in the paper because it wants new regular customers and it wants bums on seats to generate income that it wouldn't get otherwise. The guys on the next table didn't do anything special, they weren't being rewarded. They just happened to read the paper or magazine that particular day. It's the harsh truth I'm afraid. City don't need to offer you a loss leader, or me, becuase we are regulars. And you decided in advance that you were happy to happy the prices they offered and you prepaid.

It expands the fanbase if it attracts a customer who enjoys it and wants to come back, just like the restaurant guy. Simple stuff.

I'm not saying this is right or wrong, I'm just saying its simple business. Like it or not, you're a customer.

It does but regular then sees shit like this and decides not to be so regular next season so less bundles sold and more £15 tickets needing to be sold.
 
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
Mos ow wasnt a dead rubber..people went in my works for 15 notes.
Next season i wont be in the schemes when i know i can join the sports and social and pay less...it stinks to high heaven



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Aren't the ticket prices being subsidised by the sports and social club though ?
 
I remember a few years back paying full price then city dropped the price to a fiver or something crazy. My god I was fuming but city didn't care much. I am not tempted to go on the cup schemes anymore, it's a piss take. Last year and the year before were great because of the quality in opposition but I will be picking and choosing in future and waiting for price reductions
 
TBH, the majority on here would still get a knockout stage and final ticket even if we decided no to the group stage matches.

At the end of the day that decision is up to us all.

Like others on here, I will think long and hard about joining the CL Cup Scheme next season.

I will probably pick and choose the group stage games I go to next season, if we qualify?

I will always get a ticket, regardless.

ps. Unless City offer me 500 loyalty points. ;-)
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
Tim of the Oak said:
jrb said:
I dread to think what will happen if we get a 61,000 seater stadium.

There will be a lot more £15 tickets jrb.

I'm not convinced on that.

The discussion around the marketing executives boardroom table now will be along the lines of

Executive 1- "We had a good year revenue wise last year in CL, that bundle sold well and we then managed to shift the unsold tickets to clubs and local councils for £15. What about this year we slip a £10 on the bundles and sell any remaining for £20."

Executive 2 " sounds good, I'm sure the loyal lot wont mind that, what extra revenue are we talking about ?"

Executive 1 " about £0.5m"

Executive 2 " Brilliant. That's Aguero's wages paid for 2 weeks and a £10k bonus for us!"

Good points Milwall and you are right about the hard faced marketing.

That said, I don't think the club will price tickets at a level that will result in 20k to 30k of empty seats.

Evening the marketing exec has to keep the bosses happy. IMHO The club won't want the embarrassment.

The marginal revenues in a 61k stadium also change the dynamics, so say 60k at £20 will be better than 30k at £40, when food and drink sales are taken into account etc.

This may be wishful thinking but I hope not .
 
it's shite, get the loyal mugs to sign up to showing loyalty then fuck 'em all off by offering tickets out for next to nowt. #together, what a load of bollox!!

Our club is becoming more like the rags by the week, loyalty means fuck all nowadays we're just a bunch of people they need to get more money off.
 

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