Policing in America

[r.soleofsalford]

The States is one fucked up place. 60 shots in a man. How many shots were fired and missed.

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

The States is one fucked up place. 60 shots in a man. How many shots were fired and missed.

I don't disagree per se.

The suspect, while unarmed at the time of shooting, allegedly discharged a gun from his car while fleeing police. A gun was later recovered from his car post mortem. And video is corroborative: the suspect seems to have fired a gun at police while fleeing in his car.

As for 60 police shots fired...

Apparently one or more officers thought that the suspect was reaching for a gun. So one or more initially shot. 8 officers on scene. And your fellow officer is discharging a weapon upon a fleeing suspect who previously shot at you? Yeah, I think all 8 officers are going to shoot.

I haven't watched video about the shooting - but prima facie, this does not seem to be another Derek Chauvin incident at all. From time-to-time, police will shoot unarmed individuals.

On the other hand, evidence in the form of full disclosure of video, might well prove that this shooting was entirely without justification, except that the suspect seems to have fired his gun at police when in his car.

 

[r.soleofsalford]

I don't disagree per se.

The suspect, while unarmed at the time of shooting, allegedly discharged a gun from his car while fleeing police. A gun was later recovered from his car post mortem. And video is corroborative: the suspect seems to have fired a gun at police while fleeing in his car.

As for 60 police shots fired...

Apparently one or more officers thought that the suspect was reaching for a gun. So one or more initially shot. 8 officers on scene. And your fellow officer is discharging a weapon upon a fleeing suspect who previously shot at you? Yeah, I think all 8 officers are going to shoot.

I haven't watched video about the shooting - but prima facie, this does not seem to be another Derek Chauvin incident at all. From time-to-time, police will shoot unarmed individuals.

On the other hand, evidence in the form of full disclosure of video, might well prove that this shooting was entirely without justification, except that the suspect seems to have fired his gun at police when in his car.

"the suspect seemed to have fired his gun at the police when in his car"

So do you think 60 shots that hit his body is not an over reaction from a police force that is out of control. never mind the shots that missed.

 

[bluealf]

The States is one fucked up place. 60 shots in a man. How many shots were fired and missed.

You're talking Americans in uniform, so at least another 500 and possibly a missile.

 

[bluealf]

Geez, find another way, man...

The common theme in these videos is the guy being quizzed by police is always arguing and raising his voice, this gives them the opportunity to jump all over him.

Not saying it is right but the guy got agitated to fuck quite quickly, though his panic after they grab him is not very nice to hear.

 

[Bigga]

The common theme in these videos is the guy being quizzed by police is always arguing and raising his voice, this gives them the opportunity to jump all over him.

Not saying it is right but the guy got agitated to fuck quite quickly, though his panic after they grab him is not very nice to hear.

It seems that the same cop dept let him perform for the last five years, so he'd be right to think wtf is happening.

I, daresay, there's also the fact he factoring in death-by-police in his reaction, being an unarmed Black man.

Plenty of reason to think that way, of late, non?

 

[bluealf]

It seems that the same cop dept let him perform for the last five years, so he'd be right to think wtf is happening.

I, daresay, there's also the fact he factoring in death-by-police in his reaction, being an unarmed Black man.

Plenty of reason to think that way, of late, non?

I wasn't disagreeing with you but if it was me I would move straight to the terror part and not argue with them at all, some of them are looking for an excuse to do something.

Arguing and being a little aggressive is all it might take.

Horrible really and yes if the guy has been there for 5 years then it is unjust to try and move him on/shut him down and arrest him.

The other thing of note is the black police officers never seem to mediate at all.

 

[mat]

Prevalence of white supremacists in law enforcement demands drastic change

A Reuters investigation on May 6 indicates that a significant number of U.S. police instructors have ties to a constellation of armed right-wing militias and white supremacist hate groups, a report that adds to a fast-growing body of evidence showing a deadly threat inside U.S. police departments.

www.reuters.com

Silence is deafening from both parties.

 

[Bigga]

I wasn't disagreeing with you but if it was me I would move straight to the terror part and not argue with them at all, some of them are looking for an excuse to do something.

Arguing and being a little aggressive is all it might take.

Horrible really and yes if the guy has been there for 5 years then it is unjust to try and move him on/shut him down and arrest him.

The other thing of note is the black police officers never seem to mediate at all.

It is SUPER RARE for a Black cop to intervene from a group of White/ senior cops. They don't usually want to be the subject of abuse they see by cop. I have seen a Black cop break down in tears talking about their own experience of being 'handled' by White cops whilst wearing their UNIFORM, fearing they were going to be murdered that day.

If that's just one story, there are others, so what chance do ordinary citizens have?

 

[Bigga]

Prevalence of white supremacists in law enforcement demands drastic change

A Reuters investigation on May 6 indicates that a significant number of U.S. police instructors have ties to a constellation of armed right-wing militias and white supremacist hate groups, a report that adds to a fast-growing body of evidence showing a deadly threat inside U.S. police departments.

www.reuters.com

Silence is deafening from both parties.

Yep. Nobody seems to be bothered.