Political relations between UK-EU

[Saddleworth2]

It’s just the reality of things.
Maybe the lot of you should get your collective heads together on the best ways to tackle the numerous current difficulties.
Maybe offer a prognosis on what will actually happen in Britain over the next 5 years. I’d definitely be interested in that.

A very insightful post mate. I agree with almost everything you say albeit a first step has to be an admission that these numerous (and growing) difficulties exist. Until that happens we will still be talking and missing each other.

 

[Vic]

The pointlessness and futility of it all is part of the enduring charm of this thread ;)

Why just this thread? I'm sure some who post only on here think that about the transfer thread and the matchday thread or the post-match thread. It's all pretty futile in terms of changing anything. At least this thread records change - there are now people who realise Brexit is crap who didn't in 2016, but they probably don't need this thread to realise that.

 

[journolud]

Been trawling the web fir hours this morning, well OK I went to the Guardian website, biased leftie remainers (formerly known as anyway) as they are and found this OPINION piece which makes interesting reading and can't surely reflect reality as all the Brexiteers (as they er, used to be known) on here are all solid in their continued support for and exaltation of the benefits of Brexit

Brexiters are waking up to the damage they've done | Brexit | The Guardian

Off to the Mail or the Sun next to trawl for an article telling is how well it's all going so I can take a balanced view

 

[Vic]

'We'....?

I often pointed out that you continually showed that you did not

You often said it, never showed anything. Can you cite anything you said about fishing except (a) I didn't understand and (b) Frost was right to give the EU a period of no change in rights (but only after he'd said it)?

 

[Vic]

YAAAY.....

Thick racists is making a comeback

Fuck - the gang are getting back together again

Well, twisting my words I see...

 

[mcfc1632]

A very insightful post mate. I agree with almost everything you say albeit a first step has to be an admission that these numerous (and growing) difficulties exist. Until that happens we will still be talking and missing each other.

Or............

The first step has to be an admission that the scale of issues that are occurring:

a) are really quite low level when compared to the massive/huge/apocalyptical scope of what was predicted by quite a few posters on here

and

b) could largely have been foreseen, assessed and planned/mitigated for, if there had been a competent government in place from 2016 onwards and one which was committed to preparing for the UK to genuinely Leave the EU, including the SM and CU.

Otherwise we will be talking past each other and some will cling to their hope for bigger issues to impact the UK

As I have said - Leavers have a lot more reason to be fucked off with the incompetent (and for the longer period - largely Remain/BRINO biased) buffoons that have been masquerading as the government since 2016

 

[Rascal]

Been trawling the web fir hours this morning, well OK I went to the Guardian website, biased leftie remainers (formerly known as anyway) as they are and found this OPINION piece which makes interesting reading and can't surely reflect reality as all the Brexiteers (as they er, used to be known) on here are all solid in their continued support for and exaltation of the benefits of Brexit

Brexiters are waking up to the damage they've done | Brexit | The Guardian

Off to the Mail or the Sun next to trawl for an article telling is how well it's all going so I can take a balanced view

At least Polly gets that half right, blame the government for fucking up brexit, not brexit itself.

 

[west didsblue]

At least Polly gets that half right, blame the government for fucking up brexit, not brexit itself.

I see you still think it's the turd polisher's fault not the turd.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

I see you still think it's the turd polisher's fault not the turd.

Lexit is the real life version of the unreleased film Borat 1.5, after driving across the USA in an ice cream van with the music stuck on all the time, Azamat snoring and farting in the back and the bear filling up the place with shit. Borat finally gets to the venue to meet Pamela Anderson and propose only to find that she has been cut from the film and this time it's Divine from Pink flamingos.

 

[Saddleworth2]

Or............

The first step has to be an admission that the scale of issues that are occurring:

a) are really quite low level when compared to the massive/huge/apocalyptical scope of what was predicted by quite a few posters on here

and

b) could largely have been foreseen, assessed and planned/mitigated for, if there had been a competent government in place from 2016 onwards and one which was committed to preparing for the UK to genuinely Leave the EU, including the SM and CU.

Otherwise we will be talking past each other and some will cling to their hope for bigger issues to impact the UK

As I have said - Leavers have a lot more reason to be fucked off with the incompetent (and for the longer period - largely Remain/BRINO biased) buffoons that have been masquerading as the government since 2016

low level = business failing. Raab would be proud of that.

I don't think we are seeing the half of it yet. Fish is merely the first because nothing rots faster than a bad fish deal (wasn't Brexit supposed to hand a massive win to the fishing industry?). Small business exporters, haulage companies, motor parts business's all calling out significant new costs and friction. In fact anyone that is importing or exporting from the single market and from GB to/from NI.

Some of it could have been mitigated for sure, but it hasn't been. Some of it will remain as a inconvenient truth of leaving the single market. Whatever, it is downgrading what we had, not improving it.

What we are seeing in the press increasingly is the reframing of the argument to Brexit is still a good thing its just been implemented in the wrong way. Thats dishonest.

Forget what some posters said once upon a time. The fact is that Brexit is now impacting severely on several sectors of the economy. New emerging problems are highlighted every day. Can you bring yourself to show a little empathy for those that are impacted significantly and a little honesty to admit that there are real today problems?