Political relations between UK-EU

Where have all the Brexiteers gone? We need some positive news to demonstrate why it’s all been worthwhile. The best we’ve had so far is that Nissan might not shut down after all. Everything else has been a bit grim. For example small businesses unable to import or export without huge costs, empty shelves in NI, various problems for expats and people with second homes, finding out that the fishing and livestock industries are fucked and large amounts of financial trading moving away from London. There’s got to be some benefits surely.

Oh yes, forgot about the good news about Gibraltars’s border coming down allowing free movement with the EU although it is slightly tempered by the fact that EU officials will be checking passports of people flying in from the UK.
 
west didsblue said:
Where have all the Brexiteers gone? We need some positive news to demonstrate why it’s all been worthwhile. The best we’ve had so far is that Nissan might not shut down after all. Everything else has been a bit grim. For example small businesses unable to import or export without huge costs, empty shelves in NI, various problems for expats and people with second homes, finding out that the fishing and livestock industries are fucked and large amounts of financial trading moving away from London. There’s got to be some benefits surely.

Oh yes, forgot about the good news about Gibraltars’s border coming down allowing free movement with the EU although it is slightly tempered by the fact that EU officials will be checking passports of people flying in from the UK.
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Could be worse.
Mustn’t grumble.
 
Background:

www.bbc.co.uk

Brexit: Lough Neagh eel fishermen 'concerns' over future

Fishermen on Lough Neagh say they have concerns about the future of the industry after Brexit.
www.bbc.co.uk

Brexit:

As EU only allows eels to move between EU countries, the regular restocking of Lough Neagh from eels caught in the Severn is now banned. The firm that exports them is laying off staff as EU exports were a big part of their business. And yes, the owner voted for Brexit because he believed the guff about global Britain would mean he could export them to Asia.
 
west didsblue said:
Where have all the Brexiteers gone? .......
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For me - I have only recently posted what are, IMO, a couple of clearly truthful positions:
  • the regular (previously known as) Remainers have been caught out (again) having gotten their doom and gloom predictions badly wrong - and are now struggling to portray the current scope of issues as the apocalypse that they predicted
  • that the current scope of issues would have been greatly mitigated/reduced/avoided, if only the UK had a government in place during 2016-2019 that had been committed to the preparing for the UK to leave the SM and CU. So yeah - inconvenient perhaps, but clearly true - a lot of the fault for current issues sits with the Remainer led government of 2016-2019.
Of course pointing out my opinions - ones that I am particularly qualified and experienced enough to hold - is unwelcome to those that dominate the thread and therefore must be shouted down rather than debated.

Re other Leavers not bothering?

Well, I am sure that Remainers will seek solace in the reasons that they invent for that, but I would suggest that it might be because the they have had 5 years of the same old same old daft predictions being proven wrong - and afterall - in 2021 - they can just be comfortable in an outcome having been achieved that is beyond their best hopes.

And even now - when some potentially good news emerges re the Nissan situation - what do you get from the 'old guard' - convoluted attempts to place a negative slant on it.

No - it is more likely and simply, that you fellas have been wrong for so long, and not able to face up to that - and people probably have better things to do. People leaving you to your echo chamber should not be a surprise - and anyway, it is what you have always wanted.
 
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Anyone who is still thinking in terms of being a remainer or brexitier are the ones holding the country back.

Quite pathetic really to try to find faults with every aspect of whats happening just to say "I told you so" or also to try to excuse the various problems and pass the blame.

There is no remaim or exit, what we have is the future, anyone still fighting the battles of 2016-2020 need to grow up and think about the country and not themselves.
 
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