Political relations between UK-EU

This is Lance Foreman - Brexit denier - oh and former Brexit MEP.............Why didn't his party point this out when campaigning for Brexit one wonders? Nice guy though. His comment on Grenfell was " you can't solve everything with money" yet here is is on the grift asking for govt money so solve a problem he helped to create.



I say grift as this is on his company website


We used his restaurant just across the river from West Ham before an evening game. Didn't know he was a Brexiteer. It is all beyond irony.
 
one thing I still find astounding is how those who pressed for Brexit ( they needed us more than we needed them brigade ) are now mortified when the EU treats a 3rd Country in the same way as they treat any other 3rd Country. There is still an element that think because we used to be a member which should qualify is as an ex-member to still use the equipment.
 
But it is causing problems in the EU (e.g. exporters losing business, caterers not getting langoustines). I don't think there's any way Johnson will contemplate that the UK overtly pay for access and the EU is not going to give us any long term arrangement that looks like membership privileges without paying the subs.

The EU does seem capable of getting round its own rules in emergency. I wonder if they could relax the paperwork requirements. It's paperwork that enforces rules that were not needed on 31 December and are not really needed now - not while we have the same standards. But (the unicorns are dead) what would be the mechanism for "for the time being" measures to relax some of the regs? And how could the UK disguise paying for the privilege? For the EU, it then becomes a disincentive for the UK to depart from standards. It also makes it potentially easier for a future UK government to normalise the arrangements (paying for access).

(Is this one of the few posts to fit the actual thread title? Though it should be titled the "now that Brexit is so obviously crap..." thread.)
 
one thing I still find astounding is how those who pressed for Brexit ( they needed us more than we needed them brigade ) are now mortified when the EU treats a 3rd Country in the same way as they treat any other 3rd Country. There is still an element that think because we used to be a member which should qualify is as an ex-member to still use the equipment.
Serious question, do you find the EU’s posturing this week about vaccines morally acceptable?

That’s open to anyone on this threa.
 
It's a joke. Loads of stories all across Spain now talking about deliviries arriving from UK with a hefty tax/administration/customs bill. Loads of goods being sent back as people not prepared to pay it. An example of one I've just seen is a £90 goods order coming with a 42euro bill. Order sent back, everyone loses out.

British exporters sending to EU countries are going to die a painful death.


And vice versa...... £80 import bill on a £200 purchase from the Eu.....beware what you buy on Ebay and check any website to make sure it is a UK based company
 
Serious question, do you find the EU’s posturing this week about vaccines morally acceptable?

That’s open to anyone on this threa.
It’s no longer our concern. All I know is that every time the EU has any difficulties in any area the Brexit fans will latch on to it as a comfort blanket to show that in spite of all the real difficulties importers, exporters, fishermen, farmers, small businesses and individuals are experiencing it provides justification for us leaving. It will become a regular event and will get boring very quickly.
 

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