Political relations between UK-EU

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I assume that Dover and its Ports are not owned by one of Johnsons mates and isn't funding the Tories? I presume the fund is earmarked for work that will benefit their mates?

 
bluethrunthru said:
I assume that Dover and its Ports are not owned by one of Johnsons mates and isn't funding the Tories? I presume the fund is earmarked for work that will benefit their mates?

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Dover is state-owned, run by a not for profit trust. The Tories have thought about privatisation but haven't done it.
 
Vic said:
Dover is state-owned, run by a not for profit trust. The Tories have thought about privatisation but haven't done it.
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Hence it doesn't get the support it needs...............nowt in it for them...............they will be livid when they find out how important the port is for UK trade and travel - even Raab worked that out ffs
 
Chris in London said:
Yeah, but that’s not the point. The point is, the rules aren’t just being imposed on us by unelected bureaucrats in Brussels any more.

They’re being imposed on us by unelected bureaucrats in Geneva, which is completely different.
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The WTO repeatedly said to our elected representative at the time, David Davies, to 'stop lying'.

He was told on the three occasions he had meetings with the WTO he was being deliberately misleading.

Yeah, it's an odd situation that we began the formation of the WTO with GATT, and promoted the single market and customs union to our cousins in the EU to make life easier for ourselves.

It's gone now. Life has just become a whole lot more difficult for no gain whatsoever. I've started to notice shortages in the supermarkets now, gaps filled up with tins or boxes of stuff you wouldn't normally expect to see in that section, and we are only six months in.

Brexit won, get over it, LOL. Brexit hasn't totally impacted us yet, but it's affects are starting. Let's see what's going on in two years time.
 
NPBlue said:
The WTO repeatedly said to our elected representative at the time, David Davies, to 'stop lying'.

He was told on the three occasions he had meetings with the WTO he was being deliberately misleading.

Yeah, it's an odd situation that we began the formation of the WTO with GATT, and promoted the single market and customs union to our cousins in the EU to make life easier for ourselves.

It's gone now. Life has just become a whole lot more difficult for no gain whatsoever. I've started to notice shortages in the supermarkets now, gaps filled up with tins or boxes of stuff you wouldn't normally expect to see in that section, and we are only six months in.

Brexit won, get over it, LOL. Brexit hasn't totally impacted us yet, but it's affects are starting. Let's see what's going on in two years time.
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It's all gone very quiet lately on the pro Brexiteer comments front . Are they all in Blackpool for Wakes week !?
 
peter.evans said:
It's all gone very quiet lately on the pro Brexiteer comments front . Are they all in Blackpool for Wakes week !?
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Presumably still too pleased about "winning" and "remoaner tears" to actually care about the real world or the problems the country they claim to live finds itself in. That's the point though, its barely ever been a real world argument, its been pure rhetoric and tribalism, as long as your side wins, who gives a shit about what actually happens as a result?
 
Frosty the Showman in front of the Select Committee earlier admitting that those in Cabinet who were the main Brexit cheer leaders thought that it would be a lot easier than it has been to negotiate with the EU - our exceptionalism right there front and centre - they thought coz its us they would just roll over. Banch o cants
 
bluethrunthru said:
Frosty the Showman in front of the Select Committee earlier admitting that those in Cabinet who were the main Brexit cheer leaders thought that it would be a lot easier than it has been to negotiate with the EU - our exceptionalism right there front and centre - they thought coz its us they would just roll over. Banch o cants
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The EU have the most experienced and hard nosed negotiators on the planet. It's one of the reasons why the EU is the most prosperous economic block in the world. What have we got? Liz fucking Truss with her copy and paste deals, and two dreadful agreements sorted out in weeks that have little to no benefit to the UK with Japan and Australia. It's hardly a surprise since the groundwork for the UK is being carried out by poorly paid new graduates in the civil service coming up against people with years of negotiations behind them striking deals that take, on average, 7 years to agree with mutual benefits all round.

We are being sold down the river by a totally incompetent government. There is a lack of judgement from the entire cabinet, not only with our covid response, but also trade deals being hurriedly agreed. Smiles in front of the cameras for a splash on the Daily Express front page and an easy headline mean more than the long term consequences.

Short term thinking in typical British fashion.

'Build Back Better' my arse. We won't build back better because what we had was as good it could get, and we've thrown it away for nothing.

They might as well say 'we're getting there'.

Somehow, dunno how, but I think we'll be OK, maybe.
 
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