Political relations between UK-EU

[metalblue]

It won’t, no one is seriously suggesting it would are they? We have trade agreements via the EU rollovers with over half of the countries anyway.

No harm in joining the thing, it will make Brexiteers feel better, but to quote Henig it is ‘of marginal economic benefit given that value chains of production remain mostly regional and provisions are limited in services and non-tariff barriers.’

It’s a collection of similar sized countries, so politically it may be useful, collective voice on trade issues, that sort of thing.

Crack on Liz, it’s a yes from Bob

 

[BobKowalski]

Meanwhile back in the real world...from the FT.

‘UK’s £35bn fashion industry warns of “decimation” from Brexit - big names sign open letter to Johnson urging action. Many of 50,000 SMEs on the rack due to VAT, customs and work permit issues. The lack of a mobility section in the deal also causing issues.

So where is the British government in all this? Well, pretty impotent really - it just issues statements saying it is working with industry, it wants to "seize new opportunities" and, oh, it has helplines that it spent money on...but then what else can it say?

There are some things in the UK's gift that the industry is asking for - like putting garment workers on the occupation shortage list, but on the really big stuff - customs, VAT, free movement - well, that's what we asked for. We wanted to be Canada...now we are.’

 

[BobKowalski]

Also more fishy news...

‘British Shellfish Exports Banned Indefinitely From The EU - PoliticsHome‘

Exclusive: British Shellfish Exports Banned Indefinitely From The EU — PoliticsHome

The European Union has told the UK shellfish industry that thousands of tonnes of oyster, mussel, clam, cockle and scallop exports are banned from the bloc indefinitely.

apple.news

 

[bluethrunthru]

Also more fishy news...

‘British Shellfish Exports Banned Indefinitely From The EU - PoliticsHome‘

Exclusive: British Shellfish Exports Banned Indefinitely From The EU — PoliticsHome

The European Union has told the UK shellfish industry that thousands of tonnes of oyster, mussel, clam, cockle and scallop exports are banned from the bloc indefinitely.

apple.news

any minute now John Redwood will be tweeting that because him and his lot denied this could happen the British people should be eating yet more British produce that they didn't a month ago. A not very subtle attempt to make this about patriotism and it being the british peoples fault

 

[Vic]

Also more fishy news...

‘British Shellfish Exports Banned Indefinitely From The EU - PoliticsHome‘

Exclusive: British Shellfish Exports Banned Indefinitely From The EU — PoliticsHome

The European Union has told the UK shellfish industry that thousands of tonnes of oyster, mussel, clam, cockle and scallop exports are banned from the bloc indefinitely.

apple.news

I did say last week that given the demand from EU restaurants for UK shellfish - I saw Dublin prawns on the menu in Menorca - there was some incentive for the EU to sort this, but (a) Covid means restaurant demand is not there (perhaps we should not have got all the vaccine....) and (b) there will be EU shellfish producers looking to expand their business.

 

[bluethrunthru]

I did say last week that given the demand from EU restaurants for UK shellfish - I saw Dublin prawns on the menu in Menorca - there was some incentive for the EU to sort this, but (a) Covid means restaurant demand is not there (perhaps we should not have got all the vaccine....) and (b) there will be EU shellfish producers looking to expand their business.

Just not going to happen Vic. To change the rules for our fish exports will mean changing the rules for everyone and I can't see that happening.

 

[Vic]

Some epic trolling here or stupidity

Von der Leyens spokesman says that 'mistakes happen..only the Pope is infallible'

Wasn't it "That was the week that was" (it was certainly David Frost - the original) that said "Last week the Pope had said he was not infallible. Today he said that was wrong, and he was infallible"? I won't begin to think whether it was a wise thing to bring papal infallibility into it now...

 

[Vic]

Just not going to happen Vic. To change the rules for our fish exports will mean changing the rules for everyone and I can't see that happening.

I hope you're wrong for the sake of a whole UK industry. I'd be interested in what people think we might offer the EU to bend its rules, or are we just content to fail the "acid test" of the success of Brexit (copyright Farage)?

 

[west didsblue]

any minute now John Redwood will be tweeting that because him and his lot denied this could happen the British people should be eating yet more British produce that they didn't a month ago. A not very subtle attempt to make this about patriotism and it being the british peoples fault

There will be a lot of happy shellfish that will die of old age with their families rather than being lobbed into a pan of boiling water or chucked on to a hot plate.
Every cloud...

 

[bluethrunthru]

I hope you're wrong for the sake of a whole UK industry. I'd be interested in what people think we might offer the EU to bend its rules, or are we just content to fail the "acid test" of the success of Brexit (copyright Farage)?

That will depend on what the can source from elsewhere is my guess. Oddly enough the big bonanza could be for EU fleets if they can find things to catch in EU waters that they can eat in the EU - if so British fishing can put the "closed" sign on the door.