Political relations between UK-EU

[meltonblue]

It wouldn’t, thing to do was build that guarantee into the deal.

Also, from PoliticsHome.

‘Exclusive: The shellfish industry claims that DEFRA admitted it was wrong about shellfish exports

"They now say that they believe on balance that the EU view, that the trade is not legal, is in fact correct," the bombshell email seen by PoliticsHome says‘

Exclusive: Shellfish Industry Leaders Claim DEFRA Privately Admitted The EU Was Right On The Shellfish Ban

The UK's leading trade body for the shellfish industry told its members that the government privately accepted that the European Union's ban on UK ...

www.politicshome.com

There’s going to be a lot of trying to control the narrative with all of this too. The letter Gove wrote being a prime example of it.

 

[bluethrunthru]

JD Sports now meat processing jobs - doesn't matter what your job is its one of the few things that seems easy to export to the EU now

British meat processors set up shop in EU as Brexit hammers exports - BMPA

British meat processors are registering businesses in the European Union in order to bypass post-Brexit export delays, with flows just 50% of normal levels and costs soaring, the British Meat Processors Association (BMPA) said on Tuesday.

www.reuters.com

 

[west didsblue]

J D Sports CEO interviewed on R4 earlier said Brexit is costing them "double digit" millions ££'s and will lead to them moving over 1000 warehouse jobs into the EU. He described the impact as "considerably worse than feared".

Of course 1000 warehouse jobs go then all those businesses relying on those workers wages and the hauliers who move stuff in and out are all adversely impacted.

No, it's not happening apparently. There's a poster on here who knows for a fact that it's all scaremongering. He'll prove it with a baby pic.

 

[journolud]

No, it's not happening apparently. There's a poster on here who knows for a fact that it's all scaremongering. He'll prove it with a baby pic.

While none of it signals the apocalypse, which oddly seems to be the only measure that matters for some in judging the effects of Brexit, the evidence does seem to be stacking up that it isn’t the utopia we were promised. Still, we’ll no doubt be berated for having a sudden concern for JD distribution centre workers and be told it’s all our fault for being remainers anyway

 

[Vic]

It wouldn’t, thing to do was build that guarantee into the deal.

Also, from PoliticsHome.

‘Exclusive: The shellfish industry claims that DEFRA admitted it was wrong about shellfish exports

"They now say that they believe on balance that the EU view, that the trade is not legal, is in fact correct," the bombshell email seen by PoliticsHome says‘

Exclusive: Shellfish Industry Leaders Claim DEFRA Privately Admitted The EU Was Right On The Shellfish Ban

The UK's leading trade body for the shellfish industry told its members that the government privately accepted that the European Union's ban on UK ...

www.politicshome.com

Eustice last week told the House of Lords EU Environment Sub-Committee that "we think this is a misinterpretation of their [EU's] own laws" and described the ban as "legally wrong" and "unjustified".

Well, if you think it's a misinterpretation of EU law, there's only one place to go, as there's only one body that decides on interpretation of EU law. The ECJ.

 

[bluethrunthru]

While none of it signals the apocalypse, which oddly seems to be the only measure that matters for some in judging the effects of Brexit, the evidence does seem to be stacking up that it isn’t the utopia we were promised. Still, we’ll no doubt be berated for having a sudden concern for JD distribution centre workers and be told it’s all our fault for being remainers anyway

what should be worrying is that its only the 9th of February, there is a pandemic, the country is covered in snow ( something which we Brits deal with notoriously well ) , trade is massively down and already shell fish producers the length and breadth of the country are in crisis and closing their doors and there is a steady trickle of jobs and businesses out of the UK into the EU - these are tangible effects not just numbers on a screen that are financial assets being moved around the EU monopoly board of financial assets.

 

[west didsblue]

While none of it signals the apocalypse, which oddly seems to be the only measure that matters for some in judging the effects of Brexit, the evidence does seem to be stacking up that it isn’t the utopia we were promised. Still, we’ll no doubt be berated for having a sudden concern for JD distribution centre workers and be told it’s all our fault for being remainers anyway

Whilst I don't recall anyone other than the Brexit fans referring to an apocalypse, the thing most people were bothered about was No Deal which didn't happen, however now we're 6 weeks in it seems that the deal we got isn't much better than No Deal.

 

[metalblue]

No, I didn’t. The issue is that Brexit hands leverage to the EU over any UK business that wants to do business with the EU. This is especially true with a thin deal that reserves no rights for the UK in having a say or influence in future dealings. Our desire for absolute sovereignty is fine until you realise it applies just as equally to the EU.

They can say one thing in September and another in February, especially if member states reckon they can gain an advantage by changing rules to keep UK produce out. There is no requirement in the deal to request consultation on rule changes, because we didn’t want to give them the same. The result is the rules get changed or ‘reinterpreted‘ and we get notified a week later by post.

We cannot be moaning about countries trying to shaft us when we gave them the ability to do so.

None of that matters. If the EU told us in September 2019 it was ok they can’t reasonably change their mind now especially without significant notice. This isn’t about shellfish it’s about having an ethical and reliable trading partner. The fact you think that it is ok to behave this way is surprising.

I would hope we have a paper trail to back up our claims we were told in September 2019 it would be ok; and we should publish it. Call them on this.

I see Ursula is under fire from both the UK and from the chairman of the european parliament committee on fisheries on this now. So it’s not just us brits saying it’s not right.

 

[bluethrunthru]

None of that matters. If the EU told us in September 2019 it was ok they can’t reasonably change their mind now especially without significant notice. This isn’t about shellfish it’s about having an ethical and reliable trading partner. The fact you think that it is ok to behave this way is surprising.

I would hope we have a paper trail to back up our claims we were told in September 2019 it would be ok; and we should publish it. Call them on this.

I see Ursula is under fire from both the UK and from the chairman of the european parliament committee on fisheries on this now. So it’s not just us brits saying it’s not right.

what is to stop them? Frosty the Showman now bleating that the EU has to change its tune - we are very supine for for a nation that has taken back control holds all the cards - if you recall we blinked first and Johnson tried to be unethical and unreliable by threatening Article 16

Brexit: EU relationship 'more than bumpy' since trade deal, says Lord Frost

The UK's chief Brexit negotiator says Brussels must adopt a "different spirit" towards its neighbour.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[meltonblue]

All about the narrative :)