Political relations between UK-EU

Cobblers. Yes, fish is a small part of the economy, but Remainers wanted no change. Brexiters wanted Brexit in order to reverse decline in fishing (fail), to keep EU boats out of UK waters (fail), and boost exports (woeful fail).

If Brexit has killed the fishing industry, that's down to Brexit, and Brexiters who didn't understand Brexit, including half the fishing industry, and most of the government.

The cobblers will be fine when lockdown is over, don’t think they are affected.

Remainers , me included, said the best outcome a few months ago was now a deal and fishing should be sacrificed to get a deal. We all said it, you can pretend that didn’t happen and whilst I don’t know if you said it yourself or not, the majority of us did. It was the general attitude on here.
 
Away from fishing and pending wars with the EU

COVID: EU continued to struggle with supply constraints, logistical issues, and slow approval of vaccines. On current rates they will struggle to vaccinate all over 50s by year end. Rates will likely pickup but will run into a headwind of falling cases and deaths reducing the public’s appetite for the “jab”. Periodic easing of lockdown (similar to 2020) with sustainable exit from restrictions not happening until early 2022 without a concerted effort from authorities in the next couple of months but Ursula is fighting challenges on several fronts. Biggest risk to EU economic recovery, markets still pricing in a euro zone recovery to marginally outperform UK...watch this space.
 
Away from fishing and pending wars with the EU

COVID: EU continued to struggle with supply constraints, logistical issues, and slow approval of vaccines. On current rates they will struggle to vaccinate all over 50s by year end. Rates will likely pickup but will run into a headwind of falling cases and deaths reducing the public’s appetite for the “jab”. Periodic easing of lockdown (similar to 2020) with sustainable exit from restrictions not happening until early 2022 without a concerted effort from authorities in the next couple of months but Ursula is fighting challenges on several fronts. Biggest risk to EU economic recovery, markets still pricing in a euro zone recovery to marginally outperform UK...watch this space.
I cannot wait for our friend from Dids and the others to claim this is a distraction from the real issue, the shellfish.

Forget the vaccine, the cockles are where the UK’s survival will be won and lost.
 
I cannot wait for our friend from Dids and the others to claim this is a distraction from the real issue, the shellfish.

Forget the vaccine, the cockles are where the UK’s survival will be won and lost.

Devastating for those affected, but in the overall economic picture for the world there are much bigger fish to fry.

The UK government will try and keep the industry afloat in the meantime and hope things work out in the end
 
The cobblers will be fine when lockdown is over, don’t think they are affected.

Remainers , me included, said the best outcome a few months ago was now a deal and fishing should be sacrificed to get a deal. We all said it, you can pretend that didn’t happen and whilst I don’t know if you said it yourself or not, the majority of us did. It was the general attitude on here.
I've never said it. I wanted to protect UK shellfish exporters and Dutch fishers catching herring in UK waters. All I got from any Brexiter was the bloviator saying I didn't understand.

I said stuff like
"Deep sea fishing may continue to decline (as it has since well before the CFP) but a no deal Brexit may ruin the profitable and (arguably) sustainable inshore fisheries and fishfarms by losing us our export markets (by tariffs, and queues at Dover including the lorries taking Scottish langoustines to French markets)".

The UK was using that leverage of EU access to UK waters to stall on a deal. Goodness knows what our team thought they'd get but they didn't get it, and they have sacrificed UK exporters in the mad hope of getting a better deal than they have.

Brexit is entirely to blame for this.
 
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I've never said it. I wanted to protect UK shellfish exporters and Dutch fishers catching herring in UK waters. All I got from any Brexit was the bloviator saying I didn't understand.

I said stuff like
"Deep sea fishing may continue to decline (as it has since well before the CFP) but a no deal Brexit may ruin the profitable and (arguably) sustainable inshore fisheries and fishfarms by losing us our export markets (by tariffs, and queues at Dover including the lorries taking Scottish langoustines to French markets)".

The UK was using that leverage of EU access to UK waters to stall on a deal. Goodness knows what our team thought they'd get but they didn't get it, and they have sacrificed UK exporters in the mad hope of getting a better deal than they have.

Brexit is entirely to blame for this.
To be fair, I did say I don’t know what you said, I didn’t want to speak for you but the the common view, held by me also, was that fishing should be sacrificed for a deal if needs be, because it’s such a small industry, affecting so few people.

It’s not totally screwed anyway, but even if it was then I said it should be.

The Brexit deal is to blame for the industry’s issues but again, it’s one of many industries and it’s a tiny one.
 
The Damascene conversion of some on the remain side is good to see regards concern for fishermen.

I well remember the cheering on here when the white multi-millionaire Bob Geldof and his white middle class affluent establishment chums sailed a motor launch down the
Thames for the sole (see what I did there?) purpose (porpoise?) of giving the universally accepted ‘wanker sign’ and ‘V sign’ to poor fishermen and women.

That was the moment when I realised Remain had to be defeated. No matter what. At any cost. That was the moment, on national television, when people like me saw exactly what people like them thought of me.

I’m thankful to say we won.
 
I cannot wait for our friend from Dids and the others to claim this is a distraction from the real issue, the shellfish.

Forget the vaccine, the cockles are where the UK’s survival will be won and lost.
It would be ironic if eating large amounts of shellfish turned out to be a miracle cure for COVID. :)
 
We created the conflict by choosing to leave the organisation whose bureaucracy has removed such conflicts throughout Europe.

You really should get off that unicorn.
Conflicts pmsl
Remind me how does limiting the power of vacuum cleaners stop Germany invading France again.
 
The Damascene conversion of some on the remain side is good to see regards concern for fishermen.

I well remember the cheering on here when the white multi-millionaire Bob Geldof and his white middle class affluent establishment chums sailed a motor launch down the
Thames for the sole (see what I did there?) purpose (porpoise?) of giving the universally accepted ‘wanker sign’ and ‘V sign’ to poor fishermen and women.

That was the moment when I realised Remain had to be defeated. No matter what. At any cost. That was the moment, on national television, when people like me saw exactly what people like them thought of me.

I’m thankful to say we won.
And now they're pretending to champion their plight, not because they care about them or their industry, merely because they want to use it as an example of how "bwexit has destroyed lives and must be stopped!!"
 

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