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Political relations between UK-EU
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Chris in London
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One of those posts that you can’t really like, because, there’s nothing to like about it, but which adds to your understanding of the situation.
Thanks for posting.
bluethrunthru
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One of those posts that you can’t really like, because, there’s nothing to like about it, but which adds to your understanding of the situation.
Thanks for posting.
fucking depressing isn't it that after 4 years of saying this is what it was going to be like and told you were talking bullshit that this is how it ends? Despite what some accused me of I don't want any of this I never wanted any of this its going to adversely hit me and my kids future - for what?
squirtyflower
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He’s trolling the thread and the forum IMOBack in the Summer I told the misery merchants to wake up the next day, turn on their computers and look for positives about Brexit. I thought it would do their mental health some good because their obsession with the negatives that they trawl the internet or their Twitter echo chambers for must be doing their general mood no good whatsoever.
Bob replied to that and said something along the lines of “it’s the Leavers role to post positive news about Brexit, it’s my role is to take the piss.”
So he’s not even doing it in good faith. He’s on the WUM. He isn’t here for anything but to oppose anything about Brexit, and he’s not in his own.
It’s just more of this disease of causing divisions in society.
BobKowalski
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There is a simplistic elegance to the EU’s position on the deal we have just signed, but first some good news, Ireland and France are ‘relaxing’ border controls until next week, which means food shipments can get through which will ease some of the problems in Ireland.
Unfortunately, this highlights the issue of us handing control of our border to Ireland and France with this deal.
The elegance is granting us tariff free access allowing EU goods to be sold in the UK (and vice versa), but also tying tariff free access to Rules of Origin which at a stroke renders the UK unviable as a transit hub which will also remove us from some supply chains.
The second part is self inflicted as we have refused to legally commit to maintaining EU standards so that we can ‘diverge‘. Now whether we diverge or not is immaterial as in the absence of a legal commitment the EU are obliged to treat consignments as if they do not meet EU standards and do the necessary checks which is what is impacting exports that are time sensitive, ie fish, foods etc.
The problem with insisting on a Canada or Japan type deal is that neither country is an EU transit hub, nor are goods time sensitive, there is no ‘nipping across the Channel.’
What the Brexit boffins failed to take into account when doing the deal was checking their maps to find out where the UK is located.
Which is a problem.
Unfortunately, this highlights the issue of us handing control of our border to Ireland and France with this deal.
The elegance is granting us tariff free access allowing EU goods to be sold in the UK (and vice versa), but also tying tariff free access to Rules of Origin which at a stroke renders the UK unviable as a transit hub which will also remove us from some supply chains.
The second part is self inflicted as we have refused to legally commit to maintaining EU standards so that we can ‘diverge‘. Now whether we diverge or not is immaterial as in the absence of a legal commitment the EU are obliged to treat consignments as if they do not meet EU standards and do the necessary checks which is what is impacting exports that are time sensitive, ie fish, foods etc.
The problem with insisting on a Canada or Japan type deal is that neither country is an EU transit hub, nor are goods time sensitive, there is no ‘nipping across the Channel.’
What the Brexit boffins failed to take into account when doing the deal was checking their maps to find out where the UK is located.
Which is a problem.
west didsblue
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Unlike your constructive contribution to the thread which consists almost entirely of one liners attacking people for being sceptical about Brexit or implying they're not proper City fans.He’s trolling the thread and the forum IMO
Take no notice of Rascal. He's outed himself in the Starmer thread as a Communist infiltrator.Yeah, agree. The Labour Party sat on the fence and look where that got them. As @Rascal has eloquently described in the past, a socialist labour would not support EU membership so th3y should have been honest.....but of course didn’t want to lose their centre ground.
Seriously , honest about what? Are you suggesting that the majority of Labour voters and members who wanted to Remain were somehow dissembling and really had views like Rascal's? Total bunkum.
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Saddleworth2
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Take no notice of Rascal. He's outed himself as a Communist infiltrator.
Seriously , honest about what? Are you suggesting that the majority of Labour voters and members who wanted to Remain were somehow dissembling and really had views like Rascal's? Total bunkum.
honest about their policy re Brexit. Their strategy pissed off both Remain and leave supporters.
Rascal
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Correct in trying to be all things to all men, it ended up being nothing to anyone.honest about their policy re Brexit. Their strategy pissed off both Remain and leave supporters.
And now Macarthyite Vic has cunningly outed me as a Communist insurgent, kind of like the forum red under the bed I expect he thinks i am an agent of Putin or some other wild eyed fanatic intent on destroying democracy.
stonerblue
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Trolling; verb. Fish by trailing a baited line behind a boat....He’s trolling the thread and the forum IMO