Political relations between UK-EU

bluethrunthru said:
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Without seeing/reading the article - I would wholeheartedly agree

If there are costs to such groups due to no failing of their own there should be a fund for compensation and processes to manage transition - it is just a basic part of professional management
 
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mcfc1632 said:
Excellent post

I have a lot of agreement with this post - even though it is dealing with a different aspect of 'management arrangements' to what @Saddleworth2 and myself have mentioned and are experienced in.

We are essentially commenting on 'once the scope and intended outcomes/delivery' etc. are established - how a change programme should be managed.

But - you raise an excellent point - because before you get too far into implementation planning you need to decide the outcomes to be delivered.

What May should have done - right up front is an 'options appraisal' and I would guess that of (let's say) 10 options that would have been considered then only 3 or 4 would have been short-listed and none of those would have been the option of No-Deal and perhaps also not the deal that has been achieved.

The BRINO option would have certainly been on the short-list - as would Norway and others that reflect close-alignment. The 'contingency' of Remaining would have been kept alive as well.

And - again you are right - if we had achieved for example @Mëtal Bikër 's desire for an EFTA solution - then the majority of people would have been satisfied and the extremists on both sides would have been left to whinge. There may have been some residual 'rumblings' - but this would have been ignored and the populace would have moved on.

I certainly would have been happy - in fact I would have expressed myself as being delighted. Notwithstanding that I am far more delighted with the actual outcome.

I come from the starting point of never thinking that we would leave - and then (even worse) in 2017-2019 thinking that we were going to end up in May's fucked up unfettered backstop.

I would have taken an EFTA arrangement in an heartbeat back in the dark days

You are indeed - spot on

The entire episode has been a series of fuckups and incompetence due to being driven and affected by self-interest groups.

The end result - what we have now - feels like some perverse game of 'pass the parcel' - with this deal being the last one to get a seat - pure luck.
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Well, I assume not intended, but that "options appraisal" bit justifies the attempt to stop Brexit.

10 options - none of them put to the people, and certainly not the one we've got.

I'll take the usual crap for saying "Vote Leave (there are 10 options available)" would have gone well on a bus.
 
mcfc1632 said:
Without seeing/reading the article - I would wholeheartedly agree

If there are costs to such groups due to no failing of there own there should be a fund for compensation and processes to manage transition - it is just a basic part of professional management
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Unfortunately, we can't just tax those who voted Leave to create this fund. Give us 10 options for raising it.
 
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