Population Growth

[BimboBob]

How is Nigeria going to nearly triple in 30 odd years?

Lots and lots of fucking?

Righto.

 

[pominoz]

Ha ha, not personally no.

It just annoys me how people go on about stopping women having babies, when in Europe the issue is not that we are having too many children but we are not having enough. It's the same when welfare is talked about. It's always 'scrounging single mothers' or 'women with lots of children' targeted, when the real problem is that 2/3rds of welfare is currently spent on pensioners and their entitlements. We need to understand that an ageing population will pose an enormous challenge to our standard of living and debate the strain on resources that will happen and how to address this. In Europe the 'Right to Die' and issues such as euthanasia are discussed in a much more sensible, non sensationalist and adult way. In Britain this is not possible such is the hysterical atmosphere.

This is so fucked up it is hard to know where to start.
You do know that most of those "pensioners" have worked the balls off for many years, paying taxes as they go. Many also served in the forces.

"an ageing population will pose an enormous challenge to our standard of living and debate the strain on resources", these same people fucking made your "standard of living" possible.
The"its all about me attitude" in one post. I feel sick reading that.

They have also enjoyed advantages and opportunities not available to my generation and won't ever be again. For example: free higher and university educations, cheap housing that has risen and made them asset wealthy, easier access to the Labour market, lived and worked through times when work (knowledge based or manual) was plentiful, social mobility was higher, the Country was not competing with the developing world in terms of jobs, in the way it is now and individuals were not competing in an expanded internal Labour market. There was less debt, continuously rising living standards and they have also been protected from austerity.

The old cannot have everything, they have done damn well out of this Country, better than my generation or those that come after me will.

No-one should be forced to die and that's not what happens in European Countries where the 'Right to Die' is enshrined in Law, like Holland. If someone gets Alzheimers and wants to die before it completely takes over them and they need care etc, what's wrong with that? If someone is disabled to such an extent that life FOR THEM is unbearable, why shouldn't they have the choice to live or die?

Oh and the pensioners of today have not made my standard of living possible. I don't know what you base saying they have on?

Sorry, but you come across as rather deranged.
We owe everything we have now to those that went before us.

 

[SWP's back]

Oh and the pensioners of today have not made my standard of living possible. I don't know what you base saying they have on?

I thought you married one?

May I ask do you pay into the system?

 

[2sheikhs]

How is Nigeria going to nearly triple in 30 odd years?

Lots and lots of fucking?

Righto.

I can understand India's population growth Bob because a lot of Indian women are stunners.

 

[intheknow!]

This is so fucked up it is hard to know where to start.
You do know that most of those "pensioners" have worked the balls off for many years, paying taxes as they go. Many also served in the forces.

"an ageing population will pose an enormous challenge to our standard of living and debate the strain on resources", these same people fucking made your "standard of living" possible.
The"its all about me attitude" in one post. I feel sick reading that.

They have also enjoyed advantages and opportunities not available to my generation and won't ever be again. For example: free higher and university educations, cheap housing that has risen and made them asset wealthy, easier access to the Labour market, lived and worked through times when work (knowledge based or manual) was plentiful, social mobility was higher and the Country was not competing with the developing world in terms of jobs, in the way it is now. Less debt and rising living standards and they have also been protected from austerity.

The old cannot have everything, they have done damn well out of this Country, better than my generation or those that come after me will.

No-one should be forced to die and that's not what happens in European Countries where the 'Right to Die' is enshrined in Law, like Holland. If someone gets Alzheimers and wants to die before it completely takes over them and they need care etc, what's wrong with that? If someone is disabled to such an extent that life FOR THEM is unbearable, why shouldn't they have the choice to live or die?

Euthanasia is a topic worthy of debate but I'm not sure the numbers involved in Holland or anywhere else make it relevant to the problem, if there is a problem of an ageing population.

And even if it did, any debate on euthanasia should be focused solely on the rights and wrongs of it as a stand alone issue and not as a conveniant aid to some sort of cull of the elderly.

I don't know why anyone would even mention euthenasia in a debate about populations.

Oh I totally agree with that.

I mentioned it because the knee jerk response to everything is always 'there are too many kids/single mother/large families breeding', or this person/that person should be sterilised, they are costing too much money. When the real costs are not children but the elderly and the real problem in Europe is not that we are having too many children but we are having too few and the Continent is ageing rapidly.

 

[SWP's back]

They have also enjoyed advantages and opportunities not available to my generation and won't ever be again. For example: free higher and university educations, cheap housing that has risen and made them asset wealthy, easier access to the Labour market, lived and worked through times when work (knowledge based or manual) was plentiful, social mobility was higher and the Country was not competing with the developing world in terms of jobs, in the way it is now. Less debt and rising living standards and they have also been protected from austerity.

The old cannot have everything, they have done damn well out of this Country, better than my generation or those that come after me will.

No-one should be forced to die and that's not what happens in European Countries where the 'Right to Die' is enshrined in Law, like Holland. If someone gets Alzheimers and wants to die before it completely takes over them and they need care etc, what's wrong with that? If someone is disabled to such an extent that life FOR THEM is unbearable, why shouldn't they have the choice to live or die?

Euthanasia is a topic worthy of debate but I'm not sure the numbers involved in Holland or anywhere else make it relevant to the problem, if there is a problem of an ageing population.

And even if it did, any debate on euthanasia should be focused solely on the rights and wrongs of it as a stand alone issue and not as a conveniant aid to some sort of cull of the elderly.

I don't know why anyone would even mention euthenasia in a debate about populations.

Oh I totally agree with that.

I mentioned it because the knee jerk response to everything is always 'there are too many kids/single mother/large families breeding', or this person/that person should be sterilised, they are costing too much money. When the real costs are not children but the elderly and the real problem in Europe is not that we are having too many children but we are having too few and the Continent is ageing rapidly.

not that rapidly, it's averaging about a year every 12 months

 

[BimboBob]

Lots and lots of fucking?

Righto.

I can understand India's population growth Bob because a lot of Indian women are stunners.

Nigerian women have fantastic tits as well.

 

[intheknow!]

Oh and the pensioners of today have not made my standard of living possible. I don't know what you base saying they have on?

I thought you married one?

May I ask do you pay into the system?

lol, early 40's is not quite pensioner age!! He's still got to work a few more decades to support us.

My husband pays enough income tax and other business related taxes for both of us and I obviously don't claim any sort of state benefit, so we as a couple are net contributors. But I buy things like everyone else, so pay VAT, fuel tax etc etc

 

[2sheikhs]

Righto.

I can understand India's population growth Bob because a lot of Indian women are stunners.

Nigerian women have fantastic tits as well.

But a lot of them have had the budgie's tongue cut off though. I like to be congratulated on a job well done once I've finished.

 

[intheknow!]

Euthanasia is a topic worthy of debate but I'm not sure the numbers involved in Holland or anywhere else make it relevant to the problem, if there is a problem of an ageing population.

And even if it did, any debate on euthanasia should be focused solely on the rights and wrongs of it as a stand alone issue and not as a conveniant aid to some sort of cull of the elderly.

I don't know why anyone would even mention euthenasia in a debate about populations.

Oh I totally agree with that.

I mentioned it because the knee jerk response to everything is always 'there are too many kids/single mother/large families breeding', or this person/that person should be sterilised, they are costing too much money. When the real costs are not children but the elderly and the real problem in Europe is not that we are having too many children but we are having too few and the Continent is ageing rapidly.

not that rapidly, it's averaging about a year every 12 months

I meant in terms of the number of people reaching pensionable age not actual life expectancy and also the ratio of young to old has declined a lot compared to days of old.