Poverty in UK

[Mr Kobayashi]

More nonsense I’m afraid. The connection between income of farmers and the duchy’s wealth is that the duchy is their landlord. Perhaps that passed you by.
The duchy is legally owned by the royal family and the heir is the beneficial owner.
You are fixated on the politics of envy being the motivation behind criticisms of inequality, but you cannot produce any evidence for that. You should not ascribe base motives to everybody you disagree with. It’s so childish.

He's just a nonsense generator. He doesn't actually believe most of what he says.

 

[KS55]

He's just a nonsense generator. He doesn't actually believe most of what he says.

In that case, I’ll stop replying. Why post stuff you don’t believe in?

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

In that case, I’ll stop replying. Why post stuff you don’t believe in?

Because it generates replies and discussion. He's a troll/wum.

 

[Tuearts right boot]

Wealth inequality is worse in most other countries, specially in the US.

It's what makes us human, there will always be that great divide of the have and the have nots no matter where you are in the world.

 

[Phil1]

Because it generates replies and discussion. He's a troll/wum.

My favourite is his assertion that all the pomp and ceremony is good to watch so they’re worth every penny they’ve stolen from the country over the years.
Putting it all down to envy is a good one as well.

 

[metalblue]

Wealth accumulates wealth. Often hard work doesn’t come into it. If you mean it is possible to start with nothing and become wealthy through hard work then I agree it is possible. But no easier than any country that is fundamentally capitalist.

Most people with any sort of pot to piss in are far too nice to realise if you want to accumulate wealth you need to pick just one kid and they inherit everything - they do the same and in a few generations your great great great grandkids have a bit of family wealth.

Said great great great grandkid then develop a drug, hooker or gambling habit and piss it all away. The entitled cunts.

Fortunately for your great great great grandkids your too nice so you’ll feel obligated to divide your money and shackles between your kids - or give it all to the cat shelter in the case of Kaz. Your great great great grandkids won’t develop any bad habits and will instead moan about entitled rich cunts.

*you isn’t you specifically but rather the vast majority reading this post.

 

[BrianW]

False consciousness is alive and well and living in the UK.

If you want pomp and ceremony it can be arranged much more cheaply and efficiently and delivered to those who want to pay for it. There are plenty of historical reenactors in this country who would be delighted to supply such a market. Taxpayers have more important things to pay for.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

My favourite is his assertion that all the pomp and ceremony is good to watch so they’re worth every penny they’ve stolen from the country over the years.
Putting it all down to envy is a good one as well.

It's just the lowest common denominator he's trying to push buttons.

 

[bluebc]

I picked a chicken breast up in Asda last night with a yellow sticker on it , I ate it on the way round and put the packet in my pocket, paid for the rest of my goods and did my bit to feed the hungry for free

 

[metalblue]

Not fair play to them when they inherit most of the land in Britain mate. Leaving not fucking much to ordinary workers. They will never sell it, why would they with the income they get ?

Only Scotland is actually doing something about this.

I think Zimbabwe did as well

 

[metalblue]

More nonsense I’m afraid. The connection between income of farmers and the duchy’s wealth is that the duchy is their landlord. Perhaps that passed you by.
The duchy is legally owned by the royal family and the heir is the beneficial owner.
You are fixated on the politics of envy being the motivation behind criticisms of inequality, but you cannot produce any evidence for that. You should not ascribe base motives to everybody you disagree with. It’s so childish.

Who would be their landlord otherwise? Probably a corporation or pension fund.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Who would be their landlord otherwise? Probably a corporation or pension fund.

Or local authorities maybe?

 

[metalblue]

Or local authorities maybe?

Hahaha. That genuinely made me spit my pint out. Brilliant mate.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Hahaha. That genuinely made me spit my pint out. Brilliant mate.

Why is that?

 

[PinkFinal]

Terms like 'they' and 'us' make it hard to understand the point you're making..
Society (people?) Don't care about about the weak? I don't believe that, there's love in the world, it's not all 'contempt' as you say
We're all striving aren't we? Sick, young, old, whatever

I'm aware that not everyone is a Tory psychopath.

My own experience of life - sexual abuse by older (unrelated) children , useless parents who bought their own home when they should have settled for a council house, autism etc. has led me to believe that for some life is a fate worse than death and that they should be able to seek a painless exit.

 

[jacko74]

People can spout off about envy and jealousy and people being entitled to "do well for themselves" all they like but the indisputable fact is that the wealth divide has massively opened up in recent decades and the opportunity for business owners and "entrepreneurs" to enrich themselves at the expense of their employees and society in general has equally increased.

I grew up in a typical Manchester post-war 3 bed semi in the 70's. My dad was a blue collar worker (newspaper printer) and most of the neighbours on our street were also working class but, there were a couple of our neighbours who were local business owners.

Yes those business owners had slightly posher cars than the rest of the street and they enjoyed 'exotic' holidays to Marbella once a year, but their general standard of living wasn't really that different to that of their blue collar employees, in fact some of their employees actually lived on the same street in the same 3 bed semi's as their bosses.

These days it would be the case that those business owners would be living in an £800k pad in Wilmslow with matching his n hers £100k Range Rovers on the drive and a nice little holiday home and speedboat in Rhosneigr.

Meanwhile their employees will now be renting some scruffy 2 bed terrace in a rough part of town with their entire income going on essential living expenses.

 

[Tuearts right boot]

People can spout off about envy and jealousy and people being entitled to "do well for themselves" all they like but the indisputable fact is that the wealth divide has massively opened up in recent decades and the opportunity for business owners and "entrepreneurs" to enrich themselves at the expense of their employees and society in general has equally increased.

I grew up in a typical Manchester post-war 3 bed semi in the 70's. My dad was a blue collar worker (newspaper printer) and most of the neighbours on our street were also working class but, there were a couple of our neighbours who were local business owners.

Yes those business owners had slightly posher cars than the rest of the street and they enjoyed 'exotic' holidays to Marbella once a year, but their general standard of living wasn't really that different to that of their blue collar employees, in fact some of their employees actually lived on the same street in the same 3 bed semi's as their bosses.

These days it would be the case that those business owners would be living in an £800k pad in Wilmslow with matching his n hers £100k Range Rovers on the drive and a nice little holiday home and speedboat in Rhosneigr.

Meanwhile their employees will now be renting some scruffy 2 bed terrace in a rough part of town with their entire income going on essential living expenses.

The good thing about this country is the ' down trodden ' employees can get off thier arses and they too are quite easily able, if so desired, to do exactly what their boss did .

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

I picked a chicken breast up in Asda last night with a yellow sticker on it , I ate it on the way round and put the packet in my pocket, paid for the rest of my goods and did my bit to feed the hungry for free

I thought David de Gea had left the country!

 

[jacko74]

The good thing about this country is the ' down trodden ' employees can get off thier arses and they too are quite easily able, if so desired, to do exactly what their boss did .

Yes if you're willing to exploit a system that has seen wages for the low to middle earners stagnate for the last 25 years as well as employee rights and workers T&C's noticeably eroded, or if you're willing to use leverage to aquire property, in particular at the lower end of the market, which you then rent out to people who can no longer afford to purchase their first home... then you too can indeed do just what those business owners and "entrepreneurs" have done.

 

[Tuearts right boot]

Yes if you're willing to exploit a system that has seen wages for the low to middle earners stagnate for the last 25 years as well as employee rights and workers T&C's noticeably eroded, or if you're willing to use leverage to aquire property, in particular at the lower end of the market, which you then rent out to people who can no longer afford to purchase their first home... then you too can indeed do just what those business owners and "entrepreneurs" have done.

or you could spend your life complaining and banging on about how bad things are.