Jack Hackett
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Xhaka is Xhaka - a liability…I was thinking more about Martinelli who is 20 and Gabriel has just turned 24.
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Premier League ( midweek ) Games 8/9/10 Feb '22
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Jack Hackett
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A lot of you part time referees referring to the laws of the game you were likely ignorant of before last nights game and so proclaiming that Martinelli’s red was deserved would almost certainly have taken an opposite view had it happened to a City player.
PannickAtTheDisco
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No. It's one of the most ludicrous pieces of refereeing I've seen, so much so that I had to check the fixture list just to make sure it wasn't bent and you weren't playing dippers or the rags next.A lot of you part time referees referring to the laws of the game you were likely ignorant of before last nights game and so proclaiming that Martinelli’s red was deserved would almost certainly have taken an opposite view had it happened to a City player.
PannickAtTheDisco
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Na, it's nonsense.I've seen it at least twice before and it's 100% correct. Both nailed on yellows, so I don't know what the fuss is about. Martinelli is just a moron, like most arsenal players it seems
Because? If I commit a yellow card offence but the ref plays advantage, am I now free from the rules of football and allowed to commit another?Na, it's nonsense.
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24 isn’t young. Gabriel acted like a complete mard arse **** last night.Xhaka is Xhaka - a liability…I was thinking more about Martinelli who is 20 and Gabriel has just turned 24.
That wasn’t naïvety. That’s either learned or requested by the manager. For example, he shouldered Podence in injury time and went down holding his own face. Learned cheating.
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It a ludicrous argument that Keown and now posters on here are trying to use. Because he didn’t “know” that he was going to get a yellow card for pushing a player taking a throw in in the face, he therefore didn’t deserve a second yellow for an obvious and deliberate shove in the back.Because? If I commit a yellow card offence but the ref plays advantage, am I now free from the rules of football and allowed to commit another?
They were both clear cut yellow card offences and therefore he got sent off.
The rest of the debate is just noise.
Jack Hackett
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Whatever, however, if one yellow had just been handed out, I doubt there would have been any reaction whatsoever and I firmly believe that that might have been the case had it been one of a number of other referees and not Oliver. I used to rate Oliver as the best of a bad bunch but recently he seems to have contracted a bad case of the Mike Dean’s wanting the limelight. We keep talking about consistency but we never get it.It a ludicrous argument that Keown and now posters on here are trying to use. Because he didn’t “know” that he was going to get a yellow card for pushing a player taking a throw in in the face, he therefore didn’t deserve a second yellow for an obvious and deliberate shove in the back.
They were both clear cut yellow card offences and therefore he got sent off.
The rest of the debate is just noise.
And btw, I’m still fuming at Mike Dean (from the Wirral) refusing to red card Godfrey after his stamp on the face of Tomiyasu even when asked by VAR to check the sideline video at our match at Goodison. When did we stop not picking referees adjudicating games when they’re from the locality of one of the teams?
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Which of the yellows did you think wasn’t deserved? You could argue the first hand in the face was a straight red according to the rules.Whatever, however, if one yellow had just been handed out, I doubt there would have been any reaction whatsoever and I firmly believe that that might have been the case had it been one of a number of other referees and not Oliver. I used to rate Oliver as the best of a bad bunch but recently he seems to have contracted a bad case of the Mike Dean’s wanting the limelight. We keep talking about consistency but we never get it.
And btw, I’m still fuming at Mike Dean (from the Wirral) refusing to red card Godfrey after his stamp on the face of Tomiyasu even when asked by VAR to check the sideline video at our match at Goodison. When did we stop not picking referees adjudicating games when they’re from the locality of one of the teams?
Consistency is always the argument by all fans when a decision goes against their team and point to another decision and say “what about this”.
I don’t remember the Godfrey incident, so can’t comment, but if it is as you say then maybe it should have been a red card.
Its not relevant to Martinelli getting 2 yellow cards though.
PannickAtTheDisco
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The ref has determined that insufficient impediment has occurred to warrant stopping the game to penalise the offence, thus the most serious offence then takes precidence as is the case in 99.99% of other matches ever refereed.Because? If I commit a yellow card offence but the ref plays advantage, am I now free from the rules of football and allowed to commit another?