Premier League Vote (Updated)

[BoyBlue_1985]

If FFP effects foreign players joining the premier league it might promote better support for youth set ups, developing better young english players in the process. And besides alot of people seem to agree it wont effect our ability to stay at the top so fuck it

If FFP effects foreign players joining the PL it could likely be a breach of EU Laws.

"FFP likely constitutes collusion and hence a violation of EU competition law. FFP may also infringe other EU freedoms such as the free movement of workers and services."

From the Wall Street Journal.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324077704578357992271428024.html

COnsidering the people who wrote the laws up worked closely with EU lawyers as to not break any laws I would say the wall street journal can suck a fat one

 

[JGL07]

If FFP effects foreign players joining the premier league it might promote better support for youth set ups, developing better young english players in the process. And besides alot of people seem to agree it wont effect our ability to stay at the top so fuck it

If FFP effects foreign players joining the PL it could likely be a breach of EU Laws.

"FFP likely constitutes collusion and hence a violation of EU competition law. FFP may also infringe other EU freedoms such as the free movement of workers and services."

From the Wall Street Journal.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324077704578357992271428024.html

Considering the people who wrote the laws up worked closely with EU lawyers as to not break any laws I would say the wall street journal can suck a fat one

FFP still contravenes the restraint of trade principal.

They have tried to come up with a justification that does not directly contravene EU law but that will not bind a court.

What the hell has this got to to do with the EU anyway as there are members of EUFA such as Turkey, Russia, Ukraine, Norway, Iceland, Switzerland, etc who are not in the EU?

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

If FFP effects foreign players joining the PL it could likely be a breach of EU Laws.

"FFP likely constitutes collusion and hence a violation of EU competition law. FFP may also infringe other EU freedoms such as the free movement of workers and services."

From the Wall Street Journal.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324077704578357992271428024.html

Considering the people who wrote the laws up worked closely with EU lawyers as to not break any laws I would say the wall street journal can suck a fat one

FFP still contravenes the restraint of trade principal.

They have tried to come up with a justification that does not directly contravene EU law but that will not bind a court.

What the hell has this got to to do with the EU anyway as there are members of EUFA such as Turkey, Russia, Ukraine, Norway, Iceland, Switzerland, etc who are not in the EU?

Because as part of the EU we are governed by there trade and work laws as our UEFA. It also cannot be considered a restraint of trade because entry to European competition is strictly by invite only, its a loop hole they have exploited

 

[JGL07]

Considering the people who wrote the laws up worked closely with EU lawyers as to not break any laws I would say the wall street journal can suck a fat one

FFP still contravenes the restraint of trade principal.

They have tried to come up with a justification that does not directly contravene EU law but that will not bind a court.

What the hell has this got to to do with the EU anyway as there are members of EUFA such as Turkey, Russia, Ukraine, Norway, Iceland, Switzerland, etc who are not in the EU?

Because as part of the EU we are governed by there trade and work laws as our UEFA. It also cannot be considered a restraint of trade because entry to European competition is strictly by invite only, its a loop hole they have exploited

UEFA's headquarters are in Switzerland!

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

FFP still contravenes the restraint of trade principal.

They have tried to come up with a justification that does not directly contravene EU law but that will not bind a court.

What the hell has this got to to do with the EU anyway as there are members of EUFA such as Turkey, Russia, Ukraine, Norway, Iceland, Switzerland, etc who are not in the EU?

Because as part of the EU we are governed by there trade and work laws as our UEFA. It also cannot be considered a restraint of trade because entry to European competition is strictly by invite only, its a loop hole they have exploited

UEFA's headquarters are in Switzerland!

Yes I know near a great big lake in Nyon probably for tax reasons but its besides the point as most of there competition is in Europe so they cannot contravene EU laws. EU laws are some of the strictest in the world. Hold on what the fuck are we talking about? Right EU law that was it yes it doesn't contravene the restraint of trade law in the EU, that practically covers all the other countries not within the EU you have mentioned so yeah really thats it.

 

[pavelsrnicek]

Considering the people who wrote the laws up worked closely with EU lawyers as to not break any laws I would say the wall street journal can suck a fat one

FFP still contravenes the restraint of trade principal.

They have tried to come up with a justification that does not directly contravene EU law but that will not bind a court.

What the hell has this got to to do with the EU anyway as there are members of EUFA such as Turkey, Russia, Ukraine, Norway, Iceland, Switzerland, etc who are not in the EU?

Because as part of the EU we are governed by there trade and work laws as our UEFA. It also cannot be considered a restraint of trade because entry to European competition is strictly by invite only, its a loop hole they have exploited

Not sure if that is strictly true, first off any lack of invitation to CL or EL because of breaches of FFPR may be a breach of the concept of legitimate expectations. When you do something for someone or under someones rules with an expectation that an action will follow and in the event that the action doesn't follow you could sue for damages for failure to deliver on the "promised" action. Secondly the WSJ articles suggests breaches of the anti-competition rules as the FFPR in effect create a cartel.

 

[dadnlad]

it doesnt stop players joining it just means they'll stay abroad or where the best wages are paid

 

[PistonBlue]

If FFP effects foreign players joining the premier league it might promote better support for youth set ups, developing better young english players in the process. And besides alot of people seem to agree it wont effect our ability to stay at the top so fuck it

If FFP effects foreign players joining the PL it could likely be a breach of EU Laws.

"FFP likely constitutes collusion and hence a violation of EU competition law. FFP may also infringe other EU freedoms such as the free movement of workers and services."

From the Wall Street Journal.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324077704578357992271428024.html

COnsidering the people who wrote the laws up worked closely with EU lawyers as to not break any laws I would say the wall street journal can suck a fat one

Sorry, I should have said, the author of that piece is a European competition lawyer specializing in sports, he was involved the Bosman case I think. I don't get the hostility, this is good for us. FFPR, it is being suggested, could be in breach of EU competition laws and therefore could be deemed invalid by the European Courts if challenged.

 

[BluessinceHydeRoad]

FFP still contravenes the restraint of trade principal.

They have tried to come up with a justification that does not directly contravene EU law but that will not bind a court.

What the hell has this got to to do with the EU anyway as there are members of EUFA such as Turkey, Russia, Ukraine, Norway, Iceland, Switzerland, etc who are not in the EU?

Because as part of the EU we are governed by there trade and work laws as our UEFA. It also cannot be considered a restraint of trade because entry to European competition is strictly by invite only, its a loop hole they have exploited

UEFA's headquarters are in Switzerland!

It doesn't matter where UEFA's headquarters are. British companies operating in the USA are bound by American laws there and any club from within the EU is bound by European law. Uefa had to accept the Bosman ruling and also that limits on the number of EU nationals in the squad of any EU club is unlawful.

 

[I'm no cynic but...]

On a positive note, there are no free lunches because of FFP, and when clubs like Napoli quote silly money for Cavani, they will find they are stuck with him until the time that his Bosman day arrives, and in the meantime he could lose form or become seriously injured. Napoli will from now on be faced with a dilemma. Do they hang on to a prize asset, knowing that as his contract runs down, then so does his market valuation? Or do they now accept a lower bid in the knowledge that only two or three clubs would be able to meet it due to these new rules? It is also a possibility that these two or three clubs may have other players in mind anyway, and with squad sizes being limited, it may be that there would be no place for Cavani.

For the first time since Sheikh Mansour arrived, City should avoid being fleeced.