President Joe Biden

[Dax777]

No - I was saying those were two of the reasons he was scared of her - her political stance being opposite to his can be taken as a given

But he was lobbying for a different woman of the same race,thus disproving your point. It's neither her race or sex that was his issue. It's her Politics.


The penchant for reframing an objection to someone's ideology as an objection to the person's race or sex is a well known and tired trope. Thats why I pointed out the obvious.

So you are wrong. 1) He opposes her coz she's a liberal 2) I doubt he'll vote against her. Just that he'd have preferred someone else.

All that said, I wish her the best. I like her history. I wish she had been on a different appellate Court other than D.C. but whatever. You do what you can.

 

[Dax777]

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

What was Tom Nichols point here?

 

[Dax777]

It's pretty amazing that Trump is simultaneously a massive political force driving the Right towards victory - and an off-the-scale narcissist, who cannot help himself from committing political (and legal) suicide over and over again, all in the name of ego.

If Trump could simply learn to shut-the-fuck-up when appropriate, he'd be unstoppable - and thank God! he's incapable of doing so.

Because the ideas he pushes at the policy level are quite popular with Americans. Contrary to popular media speak. His real downfall is the self absorbed narcissism. Granted some of it is just push back against a clearly baised media establishment. But a significant portion of it is just him being him.

The truth is it though, it wouldn't matter who led the Republican party. Whoever it is will get similar treatment. Hope Trump steps away so we can test that theory.

But the way the Media portrays Desantis and the way they portrayed Glen Younkin during his run for Governor is evidence enough. Trump just makes it easy, but any Republican will get the Trumpified treatment.

 

[idahoblues]

Because the ideas he pushes at the policy level are quite popular with Americans. Contrary to popular media speak. His real downfall is the self absorbed narcissism. Granted some of it is just push back against a clearly baised media establishment. But a significant portion of it is just him being him.

The truth is it though, it wouldn't matter who led the Republican party. Whoever it is will get similar treatment. Hope Trump steps away so we can test that theory.

But the way the Media portrays Desantis and the way they portrayed Glen Younkin during his run for Governor is evidence enough. Trump just makes it easy, but any Republican will get the Trumpified treatment.

I know America hates the idea of a political Dynasty, however Jeb maybe the most electable Republican out there, Huntsman (had he not been a Mormon) would have been a good choice, anyone dare either to run with Cheney? As Pres or even Vice ?

 

[Dax777]

I know America hates the idea of a political Dynasty, however Jeb maybe the most electable Republican out there, Huntsman (had he not been a Mormon) would have been a good choice, anyone dare either to run with Cheney? As Pres or even Vice ?

Nah, I think Jeb is old news. The value of guys like Huntsman, Kacich e.t.c is the believe that they'd do great with independents. But I really don't buy that. The country is more divided now than sau 10-15 years ago. There are few real independents who's vote for someone coz they are middle of the road. I'm an independent, but it's unlikely I'd ever vote Democrat again. Coz the kinda Democrat id vote for don't win primaries anymore.

I voted for and Volunteered for the Obama campaign in 2008. Also voted for him in 2012 albeit didn't do any work. By 2016, I knew I wasn't voting for Hillary Clinton. I liked Carly Fiorina the most, but knew she'd lose to Jeb, Trump or Carson. She did. So I went with Huntsman. 2020, liked Gabbard and Yang. They both went nowhere, so I voted Jorgensen.

This time, I think I'll like Desantis and I think he can win.

Oh as for Cheney, she has no chance. 5% of Republicans like her. The media types who love Republicans who go against Republicans but hate Democrats who do the same.

Compare how the media treats Cheney, and Sinema. It's like night and day. One is hailed as principled the other as a pariah. It's all gamesmanship.

 

[idahoblues]

Nah, I think Jeb is old news. The value of guys like Huntsman, Kacich e.t.c is the believe that they'd do great with independents. But I really don't buy that. The country is more divided now than sau 10-15 years ago. There are few real independents who's vote for someone coz they are middle of the road. I'm an independent, but it's unlikely I'd ever vote Democrat again. Coz the kinda Democrat id vote for don't win primaries anymore.

I voted for and Volunteered for the Obama campaign in 2008. Also voted for him in 2012 albeit didn't do any work. By 2016, I knew I wasn't voting for Hillary Clinton. I liked Carly Fiorina the most, but knew she'd lose to Jeb, Trump or Carson. She did. So I went with Huntsman. 2020, liked Gabbard and Yang. They both went nowhere, so I voted Jorgensen.

This time, I think I'll like Desantis and I think he can win.

Oh as for Cheney, she has no chance. 5% of Republicans like her. The media types who love Republicans who go against Republicans but hate Democrats who do the same.

Compare how the media treats Cheney, and Sinema. It's like night and day. One is hailed as principled the other as a pariah. It's all gamesmanship.

I agree that they’re past their time. De Santis will get a lot of traction, personally dislike his Trump loyalty but think he is most likely the next candidate

 

[Dax777]

I agree that they’re past their time. De Santis will get a lot of traction, personally dislike his Trump loyalty but think he is most likely the next candidate

I think he is his own man. Even though there is a campaign to paint him as the new Trump.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

I think he is his own man.

Well, that makes one of you.

 

[Dax777]

Well, that makes one of you.

Of Foogy. Full of jokes. What would I do without you.

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

Because the ideas he pushes at the policy level are quite popular with Americans. Contrary to popular media speak. His real downfall is the self absorbed narcissism. Granted some of it is just push back against a clearly baised media establishment. But a significant portion of it is just him being him.

The truth is it though, it wouldn't matter who led the Republican party. Whoever it is will get similar treatment. Hope Trump steps away so we can test that theory.

But the way the Media portrays Desantis and the way they portrayed Glen Younkin during his run for Governor is evidence enough. Trump just makes it easy, but any Republican will get the Trumpified treatment.

>> Because the ideas he pushes at the policy level are quite popular with Americans. Contrary to popular media speak.
Trump is a populist - he simply tells his base what they want to hear. Regardless of fact.

And of course that's popular among a certain audience.

The media does not claim otherwise.

>> The truth is it though, it wouldn't matter who led the Republican party. Whoever it is will get similar treatment.
Much of the media is left-leaning and that sentiment will invariably creep into reporting - yes. But Trump isn't simply a Republican - he's a criminal; a narcissist; rules by "gut feeling"; largely ignores advice; single-handedly upended decades-long American international policy; is petulant and vindictive. He is ill-suited for leadership of a nation.

And this has been accurately reported - on a truthful basis. No other US President has had so many members of his own cabinet and appointed officials publicly stating precisely the same thing - he's unfit for office.

If a Jeb Bush or Mitt Romney were to run against Biden, the press wouldn't be running news about how unqualified they were for office, and how morally bankrupt they were (queue for example, Access Hollywood in Trump's case; or hell, that he's paid several high-profile hookers to keep silent about his extra-maritial entanglements).

No - you're quite wrong. Some portion of the press coverage about Trump is obviously politically motivated - but most of it is simply reporting fact.