Priti Vacant has a plan, a deal with migrants plan.

[Vic]

Has she only now understood Shengen and how it works? Does she think she is in charge of the EU? Fucking clown is saying this in the USA where presumably she would want to stop anyone from Wyoming or Baltimore going to California?

Migrant crossings: Patel blames rising number arriving on small boats on EU having 'no border protections whatsoever'

Earlier this week, government minister Tom Pursglove told MPs that only five migrants who crossed the Channel by boat to the UK have been returned to European countries so far this year.

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A Brexit bonus...

 

[johnnytapia]

dysfunctional government

Which, depressingly, will waltz to victory at next GE.

 

[mat]

Eyebrows raised at Priti Patel’s effort to show sympathy for Channel deaths | Politics | The Guardian

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[The Future’s Blue!]

Didn’t she state that it’s the predators preying on the vulnerable, or words to that effect. If she knows that they are vulnerable then surely that’s an admittance that they should be seen as human refugees rather than economic migrants?

 

[domalino]

Didn’t she state that it’s the predators preying on the vulnerable, or words to that effect. If she knows that they are vulnerable then surely that’s an admittance that they should be seen as human refugees rather than economic migrants?

She's got a very Dickensian sense of social responsibility. You have to be cruel to be kind, no use giving them help they need to help themselves type stuff. If she could stuff the desititute refugees and migrants into an old boat and send them off to Australia like they did in the old days, I'm pretty sure she would.

Does she still want to bring back the gallows? I can't remember if she walked that one back.


There's a lot of unpleasant characters in Johnson's government, but it's mostly sycophants and crooks looking to enrich themselves or their peers.

Priti Patel stands alone in her appetite for cruelty.

 

[Ric]

She's got a very Dickensian sense of social responsibility. You have to be cruel to be kind, no use giving them help they need to help themselves type stuff. If she could stuff the desititute refugees and migrants into an old boat and send them off to Australia like they did in the old days, I'm pretty sure she would.

Does she still want to bring back the gallows? I can't remember if she walked that one back.


There's a lot of unpleasant characters in Johnson's government, but it's mostly sycophants and crooks looking to enrich themselves or their peers.

Priti Patel stands alone in her appetite for cruelty.

She’s a truly odious politician. Utterly malign.

 

[stonerblue]

She’s a truly odious politician. Utterly malign.

And a twat.

 

[LGWIO]

Didn’t she state that it’s the predators preying on the vulnerable, or words to that effect. If she knows that they are vulnerable then surely that’s an admittance that they should be seen as human refugees rather than economic migrants?

Theres a difference...being vulnerable then they can seek assistance from the state in which they are in whether that be local or national bodies. Is there vulnerability different from how it was when they initially left their home?
I think that is why the opening up of the ability to seek asylum/assistance at source or as close to as possible is so important.
To not do that only increases the vulnerability and changes who they are vulnerable to.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Theres a difference...being vulnerable then they can seek assistance from the state in which they are in whether that be local or national bodies. Is there vulnerability different from how it was when they initially left their home?
I think that is why the opening up of the ability to seek asylum/assistance at source or as close to as possible is so important.
To not do that only increases the vulnerability and changes who they are vulnerable to.

Is there a difference to being ‘vulnerable’?

When you are there, there is only one form, nothing eradicates that.

 

[LGWIO]

Is there a difference to being ‘vulnerable’?

When you are there, there is only one form, nothing eradicates that.

In this instance Yes there is and it is clear.
The circumstances the people who we are talking about at present in N France are "vulnerable" to a completely different set of circumstances. Those that they were when they left Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Eritrea or any other worn torn/despotic/bigotted country. Equally they may have left simply as they wish to join family.

Those people that are there, are they just vulnerable to traffickers who promise them a better life, take their money and give them little in return? Or are they vulnerable to the cold, lack of food and shelter? Or are they vulnerable to thieves, thugs and worse?

Also just because they are vulnerable doesnt change the reasons and desperation that lead them to be there, whether that be for being a different religion/sexual orientation/political view. Is the fear and desperation that those feel any different from the fear and desperation of someone that has no job and no hope and so wants a better life?

Both (all) reasons may be justified and they may all be vulnerable to those offering them a seeming "chance", but shouldnt then automatically lump them all together as refugees. Whilst it may be understandable, I'm not sure that "wanting a better" life is referred to in either '51/'67.

The sad thing is that I would say the vast majority of the general voting public want something to change and governments to do more about putting world wide plans in place to try and solve this, yet they all get bogged down in election cycles and posturing