Prorogation - Judgment Day:10.30am Tuesday 24/9/19

[FlemishDuck]

School uniforms give a level playing field for all...there is no sense of competition/bullying between the kids (families) who cannot afford the latest trendiest clothes

Now thats EXACTLY something that i wanted to reflect upon in fact, if atleast that really would have been the idea behind uniforms in private schools. Isn't it actually true that the cost of the uniform (and potentially it's quality) will depend on the class of the private school? Arn't there private schools where they wear expensive uniforms? So you have the upper class going to different schools than the lower class aswell?

In Belgium, the rich go to the same schools as the poor, and the quality of education is roughly the same everywhere. The rich do wear more expensive clothes usually true.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Not if their parents can't afford it.

Are you being serious? Uniforms are generally much cheaper than casual wear.

 

[Rascal]

Or kids just look smarter and are more likely to behave, show respect and work than if they were comparing jeans and expensive tops. Uniforms can be bought cheaply these days and it certainly helps a lot of mothers. As I said a very positive thing in my opinion.

I gave historical context.

I personally couldn't give a fuck what kids wear to go to school as long as they are well educated.

 

[blueinsa]

School uniforms give a level playing field for all...there is no sense of competition/bullying between the kids (families) who cannot afford the latest trendiest clothes

Correct.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Are you being serious? Uniforms are generally much cheaper than casual wear.

I'll take your word for it.

 

[blueinsa]

Uniforms remove the stigma of peer pressure.

Correct.

 

[FlemishDuck]

Are you being serious? Uniforms are generally much cheaper than casual wear.

I don't see how.

Statistics i was looking at had cost for uniforms for British school children at around 250 pounds per year. A family in Belgium would pay around 500 euros per year on clothing for a child and the clothing worn in school wouldi guess be about half of the stuff they wear. Doesn't really seem to make a different in terms of statistics, if you want to make this argument you actually have the burden of the proof so feel free to put it in numbers.

 

[blueinsa]

I don't see how.

Statistics i was looking at had cost for uniforms for British school children at around 250 pounds per year. A family in Belgium would pay around 500 euros per year on clothing for a child and the clothing worn in school wouldi guess be about half of the stuff they wear. Doesn't really seem to make a different in terms of statistics, if you want to make this argument you actually have the burden of the proof so feel free to put it in numbers.

let me give you an example from my youth.

We had school uniform that was black pants, white shirt and tie. Simple and cheap and no dearer than buying and wearing any other pants or top. Blazer was included but not compulsory and as the most expensive bit of kit many didnt bother.

They then relaxed for a while and some started to come into school with the latest Lacoste polo on and a pringle jumper or a Sergio tracksuit top etc not to mention the latest Nike trainers etc.

Most couldn't afford and let me tell you, it caused huge shit, lots of upset kids and no end of scraps after school.

School soon put a stop to it and back to full uniform everyone went and we all lived happily ever after.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

I don't see how.

Statistics i was looking at had cost for uniforms for British school children at around 250 pounds per year. A family in Belgium would pay around 500 euros per year on clothing for a child and the clothing worn in school wouldi guess be about half of the stuff they wear. Doesn't really seem to make a different in terms of statistics, if you want to make this argument you actually have the burden of the proof so feel free to put it in numbers.

It's under £100 for infants and juniors and not much more for seniors.

 

[FlemishDuck]

It's under £100 for infants and juniors and not much more for seniors.

Source?

Here's BBc for reference:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-49090913

The Department for Education (DfE) asked 1,183 parents about uniform costs in 2015 and found it came to almost £213 per child. Adjusting its figures for inflation, it would make the average cost of uniform in 2019 almost £230 per pupil.