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[Blueknows]

Weve dropped 22 points from winning positions in the prem and cl this season , unheard of in our period of dominance , drastic changes are needed obviously

 

[eastmanc]

On my part it’s frustration, I think. Frustration because again, we lost a two goal cushion. As we have done a few times this season. Seeing us not being able to match teams for energy when it was only 18 months ago we were producing a display when it mattered most aka against Real Madrid and the team really wasn’t very different than that team last night, if I’m not very much mistaken.

The sad fact is Blue these players have come to the end of the cycle and we need a rebuild, which has started, Blues need to be patient, it's going to take a bit of time.

 

[Goater101]

The way we defend is appalling. Rico gets brought on and all he does is fall on the floor

 

[Bluemanc100]

Well, I hesitated to post it — I'll be virulently accused of not getting behind the team, being a traitor, etc. — but I'll admit I've been thinking it since last night.
“Do us good”? Well, I wouldn't exactly put it like that. But I am utterly convinced that we have a maybe 5% chance of winning the thing this year, even if we do somehow go through. My feeling is that we concentrate on getting top four — and that is far from being easy, it sort of depends on Chelsea and/or Forest dropping off, and why after all bet on that? — and having a good run in the Cup.
We absolutely don't have the players, the legs, to be in three demanding competitions and go deep. That is now crystal clear to me.
Next week I'll be cheering on the lads, because that's what you do on the night. You don't choose it.

Agreed... I don't "want" us to go out but it's a harsh reality atm... We're not where we need to be

Let's hope that we show some bouncebackability

 

[MCFCFanTX]

What's still astonishing is that we went away to Paris and our starting fullbacks at one point were Rico and Nunes.

Not counting the average age of our midfield was like 45.

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

Weve dropped 22 points from winning positions in the prem and cl this season , unheard of in our period of dominance , drastic changes are needed obviously

Can’t dominate teams and strangle them of possession like we have done in the last few years. It horrific when you see teams out working us like they have done this season which never used to happen. We’ve had two stabs at replacing Rodri and both have been nowhere near the grade in being able to step in when required in Phillips and Kovacic. We replaced Fernandinho with Rodri and integrated Rodri over 3 seasons whilst Fernandinho was here. Now City are scrambling around looking for a replacement is causing a huge problem with the vacuum it’s left.

 

[Gazza]

Well, I hesitated to post it — I'll be virulently accused of not getting behind the team, being a traitor, etc. — but I'll admit I've been thinking it since last night.
“Do us good”? Well, I wouldn't exactly put it like that. But I am utterly convinced that we have a maybe 5% chance of winning the thing this year, even if we do somehow go through. My feeling is that we concentrate on getting top four — and that is far from being easy, it sort of depends on Chelsea and/or Forest dropping off, and why after all bet on that? — and having a good run in the Cup.
We absolutely don't have the players, the legs, to be in three demanding competitions and go deep. That is now crystal clear to me.
Next week I'll be cheering on the lads, because that's what you do on the night. You don't choose it.

If we've only got a 5% chance of winning it, won't we go out soon enough anyway?

 

[Brightwell Bros.]

Agreed... I don't "want" us to go out but it's a harsh reality atm... We're not where we need to be

Let's hope that we show some bouncebackability

At this point it feels like pre-season for next year starts now. The more games we have the better it will be come August. Let's see where some of these young lads are in their development.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Yes, Lewis was one of our best players in the early part of the season , playing out of position due to our bizzare obsession with not signing full backs

He’s also a kid that will have their ups and downs due to form , but he will come back as he’s got loads of talent

I haven't seen that tbh. He seems pretty average in midfield and in defence he looks completely out of his depth.

 

[herrock]

The sad fact is Blue these players have come to the end of the cycle and we need a rebuild, which has started, Blues need to be patient, it's going to take a bit of time.

Agreed, but it's no good people slagging off bernardo, gundo, walker akanji and kdb. They have given us some great moments, football careers end, it's just they all seem to have hit the buffers at the same time.

 

[Franny 1234]

Good post. The amount of negative comments this lad got last night was unjustified. Almost like a crescendo raining in on him on the match day forum. Not nice at all.

He's the fans new Richard Edgehill. For reasons I don't understand fans love to single out a player and that's that.

 

[Franny 1234]

At 2 nil up last night PSG were 6-1 to win. I gave it serious thoughts but my heart wouldn't allow me to place the bet. CTID

 

[Dribble]

It's a tough one having a go at Nunes for not getting his right back role figured. If we put any other midfielder in that position it would be a bigger mess. I seem to remember Ferna being destroyed at right back. It's on Pep and only Pep for choosing to play him there

Fernandinho was 36. There's a difference

Surely Walker should have been RB tonight??

We are still paying his wages aren’t we???

He could have made a difference, if he hung back and defended deeper than usual??!!

Walker wants out. He's been dropped several times, a fan abused him & the gossip pages won't stop reporting the latest rant from his ex mistress. He needs a fresh start. He wants to leave & City are helping to facilitate this.

HOWEVER, there's STILL no concrete plan to furnish our squad with proper raiding right & left backs. It seems we're still going with a defence full of CB's. The squad rethink & rebuild is underway. We'll only know properly if Pep intends to persist with not having specialist FB's after the summer window closes.

To be honest, I'm tired of seeing us using CB's & midfielders in FB positions. At the point where Pep needed to deploy Bernardo at LB, is the point where the penny should've dropped that the wide areas of defence are as important an issue to be addressed as central defence.

Then there's your little angry self sticking your beak in without knowing the thrust of the discussion...

You’re literally obsessed with Walker. Get help mate.

For the avoidance of doubt little Mr Angry, here's a time-line which led to my Walker comment.

Again for the avoidance of doubt, reports started to circulate 45 minutes ago that City & Milan have reached a 6 month loan agreement for Walker, with a £4.5m option to buy in the summer.

You constantly seem to be behind ongoing developments, & need things spelling out to you in simple terms because you're an angry little cretin. How do I know this? Even your username has an angry exclamation mark to typify the constant look of rage on your Gammon face!

I'm not obsessed with Walker, I'm merely relaying breaking news that directly affects Manchester City. Now that's cleared up, you can go point your angry beetroot coloured gammon face at someone else. ;-)

Kyle Walker completes loan move to AC Milan from Man City

JACK GAUGHAN: The 34-year-old decided on seeking a new challenge last month after a difficult campaign with the Premier League champions.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Blueknows]

At 2 nil up last night PSG were 6-1 to win. I gave it serious thoughts but my heart wouldn't allow me to place the bet. CTID

just cant bring myself to bet for or against us ever

 

[eastmanc]

Agreed, but it's no good people slagging off bernardo, gundo, walker akanji and kdb. They have given us some great moments, football careers end, it's just they all seem to have hit the buffers at the same time.

True, although I think, surrounded by younger legs, KDB still has a role to play in the side.

 

[SamBlue]

Weve dropped 22 points from winning positions in the prem and cl this season , unheard of in our period of dominance , drastic changes are needed obviously

It is not dropping that is the problem, it is the manner how we dropped them. Arsenal, Brighton, Tottenham, Feyenoord, Sporting, United, Brentford and now PSG last nigh and I am sure we'll see more by the end of the season.
I am ok with losing games when the opposition is better , but I so depressed how we seem to loose or draw every single one. It is always a mini-collapse in a very short period time where the players, who are so tied up in "the system", are not able to reach within their human, individual spirit, to overcame difficulties. And that incessant talk after every single game, just shut the feck up, we all se what is going on.
It is all on Pep he started fucking up everything some time ago, Arsenal collapsing for two consecutive season helped a lot to lull us into thinking about our everlasting greatness. But claxons were out when Rodri was out for a few games last season, or that we didn't manage a win against majority of bigger teams.
I think a geezer who is sitting two rows below me had a point when he remarked some time ago, that our downward spiral started with that CL final against Inter.

 

[Brightwell Bros.]

It is not dropping that is the problem, it is the manner how we dropped them. Arsenal, Brighton, Tottenham, Feyenoord, Sporting, United, Brentford and now PSG last nigh and I am sure we'll see more by the end of the season.
I am ok with losing games when the opposition is better , but I so depressed how we seem to loose or draw every single one. It is always a mini-collapse in a very short period time where the players, who are so tied up in "the system", are not able to reach within their human, individual spirit, to overcame difficulties. And that incessant talk after every single game, just shut the feck up, we all se what is going on.
It is all on Pep he started fucking up everything some time ago, Arsenal collapsing for two consecutive season helped a lot to lull us into thinking about our everlasting greatness. But claxons were out when Rodri was out for a few games last season, or that we didn't manage a win against majority of bigger teams.
I think a geezer who is sitting two rows below me had a point when he remarked some time ago, that our downward spiral started with that CL final against Inter.

Heads dropped last night the moment the first goal went it. They knew as well as we did what was coming.

 

[BlueMonkey79]

I'd like to see the age range of these inpatient fans.

I was there watching Dickov knee slide across Wembley. And wore a plastic see through bin bag whilst the Kippax was being built.

But I like to call a spade a spade if you like. I celebrated wildly when Aguerooooo smashed in that goal and went on a 3 day bender after our Triumph in Istanbul. But I will also call the team out for what I am witnessing lately.

We are so so poor this season. Square pegs in round holes every week, lack of quality signings in relevant positions. And players that should have been bit part this season or sold last season when they were at the pinnacle of their careers.

It always irks me how we can't comment on the state we are in without being called entitled!! Yes City have given me amazing memories over the years, but they are there to reflect on. Living in the past won't solve our crisis. I can't imagine Pep in the dressing room telling players like KDB and Gundo "don't worry chaps, you've been amazing the last 8 years, you're starting the next game regardless"

We need to start being ruthless with the team, the squad and the transfer market!!!

 

[IcriedwhenTueartleft]

Nearly calmed down after that showing last night. Losing 4 goals after going 2 up is bad enough but it could have been more, the way we just vanished from that match was scary.
That defence in the 2nd half, every one of them...abysmal...GK. both full backs, Gvardiol and Akanji. Akanji without someone like Dias to organise him is just not good enough. Gvardiol is a poor defender, fine going in the other direction but as a CB or LB when we are under pressure?
Another dreadful showing from Walker...oh hang on...
Nunes is just not good enough. Their 1st goal had real shades of Fernandinho diving in, out on the far touchline, on the RM player in 4-3 CL 1st leg game before their 2nd goal.
The amount of times Ederson kicked it to one of them in the 2nd half.
Savinho hooked at HT and no wonder, lost the ball too many times and cannot finish or make the right decision when he is through, when to pass or shoot. Clearly not following Pep's instruction and needs to become more of a team player.
Grealish's reaction after scoring....doesn't look like he gives a toss. Compare that to previous seasons when he was kicking and screaming. What has happened there behind the scenes?
That midfield as well. Foden is great when we are winning but in games like that last night, nowhere to be seen in the trenches.
Another fairly pitiful collapse from a team with the mental strength of an anorexic oyster.

 

[IcriedwhenTueartleft]

He was rubbish.

The keeper position has highlighted how muddled the thinking has been this season.

I can't believe he was shovelled back in to the match last night after his shit shows in Lisbon, the home game with Feyenoord and his poor performance in Turin v Juve...awful in our last 3 CL games yet walks straight back in to the team last night....and turns in another half-arsed performance. That is on Pep.