Public enquiry into Manchester bombing

Manchester police didn't know the Ariana Grande concert was taking place on the night of the arena bombing as transport police were responsible for the venue, the inquiry has heard.

He told the hearing that Greater Manchester Police (GMP) "did not know on an organisational level about the Ariana Grande concert and had not made any provision or plan for the concert that night"


Reading a few snippets of it last night and the police and security were told of the bombers suspicious activities by various members of the public, nothing was done and the result is that we are here now after an atrocity.

Same old spiel about learning lessons will be given.
 
Reading a few snippets of it last night and the police and security were told of the bombers suspicious activities by various members of the public, nothing was done and the result is that we are here now after an atrocity.

Same old spiel about learning lessons will be given.

Ok, fine. They go up to him *bang* just other people dead instead. How about MI5 do their job properly and have him apprehended before it ever got to the point where he was a bomb in our city? That's the failure (again), everything else is just distraction.
 
There was only One paramedic there, who arrived 18 minutes after the bomb went off and they were on their own for forty minutes.
I can’t take that in.
 
Ok, fine. They go up to him *bang* just other people dead instead. How about MI5 do their job properly and have him apprehended before it ever got to the point where he was a bomb in our city? That's the failure (again), everything else is just distraction.

I agree with all of that, but it didn't happen. It would be interesting to know why the local police and security didn't act on the concerns though. A bit like that scumbag wandering the streets of Birmingham with a knife stabbing people for 2 hours without being caught.

We're in a dark hole with law and order in the country, you can guarantee that if you or I would have nicked a curly wurly from Tescos the flashing blue lights would have been on us in a flash.
 
There was only One paramedic there, who arrived 18 minutes after the bomb went off and they were on their own for forty minutes.
I can’t take that in.
There were half a dozen there within 30 minutes according to the enquiry. The first one just happened to be nearby in a rapid response vehicle and another senior paramedic lived close by so rushed down when he realised the scale of the problem. Their job was to make an assessment of the response required and get the right resources organised.
 
Manchester police didn't know the Ariana Grande concert was taking place on the night of the arena bombing as transport police were responsible for the venue, the inquiry has heard.

He told the hearing that Greater Manchester Police (GMP) "did not know on an organisational level about the Ariana Grande concert and had not made any provision or plan for the concert that night"

There are always concerts there. How many concerts were held at the arena that year and the year before, anyone know?
 
There were half a dozen there within 30 minutes according to the enquiry. The first one just happened to be nearby in a rapid response vehicle and another senior paramedic lived close by so rushed down when he realised the scale of the problem. Their job was to make an assessment of the response required and get the right resources organised.
Not according to the BBC report of today’s evidence.

 
Setting up the already heavily underfunded BTP for the blame.
 
I agree with all of that, but it didn't happen. It would be interesting to know why the local police and security didn't act on the concerns though. A bit like that scumbag wandering the streets of Birmingham with a knife stabbing people for 2 hours without being caught.

We're in a dark hole with law and order in the country, you can guarantee that if you or I would have nicked a curly wurly from Tescos the flashing blue lights would have been on us in a flash.
Do you care to wonder how many officers would have been on duty in Birmingham City Centre at that time? How many scenes did they have to preserve? How many other demands at exactly the same time-prob more than 75% of available staff already tied up with other immediate jobs, prisoners.
 
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Reading a few snippets of it last night and the police and security were told of the bombers suspicious activities by various members of the public, nothing was done and the result is that we are here now after an atrocity.

Same old spiel about learning lessons will be given.
Yeah they clearly never learn any lessons, it is a patronising statement they make ,there is a video on the news showing him struggling with his backpack as it was so heavy, they ask people to report suspicious things so they should have looked at him
 

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