Queen Elizabeth II

I've stayed off this thread, which is extremely divisive (in itself, that is not without interest in what it says about people's relation to a monarch).
But that's potentially a useful distinction. Mourning is perhaps the outward, ceremonial expression of grieving, with certain rites attached to it. I suspect that @twosips (a thoughtful lad, by the way, not for one second someone I'd consider wilfully provocative, to judge by his Youtube thing) would argue that neither are being done or experienced by the whole nation, and that's his whole problem with that narrative. Which, let's be honest, has been pumped out 24/7 since her death.
If I've understood him rightly, his objection would not at all be to people grieving, or even mourning, their queen. It's that we're being told that everyone's in that state of mind and expression, when they're palpably not.
And if the distinction holds good, that there's a sort of coercive mourning going on, which doesn't correspond to inner grieving.
But I may be overthinking it.
Yes...
 
And couldn’t hack it .would of been better off joining the brownies
But at least he had the courage to say so. It takes a brave person to tell the world, or if we’re being pedantic, our nation, that it wasn’t the life for him.
He stood up for himself and took the brickbats. The worst thing must have been telling his father because he knew what a tough person he could be. :-)
 
I've stayed off this thread, which is extremely divisive (in itself, that is not without interest in what it says about people's relation to a monarch).
But that's potentially a useful distinction. Mourning is perhaps the outward, ceremonial expression of grieving, with certain rites attached to it. I suspect that @twosips (a thoughtful lad, by the way, not for one second someone I'd consider wilfully provocative, to judge by his Youtube thing) would argue that neither are being done or experienced by the whole nation, and that's his whole problem with that narrative. Which, let's be honest, has been pumped out 24/7 since her death.
If I've understood him rightly, his objection would not at all be to people grieving, or even mourning, their queen. It's that we're being told that everyone's in that state of mind and expression, when they're palpably not.
And if the distinction holds good, that there's a sort of coercive mourning going on, which doesn't correspond to inner grieving.
But I may be overthinking it.
If they enforce no cameras for the lying in state, that will cut the queues down.
 

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