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[domalino]

The cup games matter and Foden is under serious pressure to perform in them, as he's got far stiffer competition for a first team place and unlike a lot of those teams City are expected to win every game with something to spare and nothing else is good enough.

Again "City are expected to win every game with something to spare and nothing else is good enough." is a bullshit argument when you're talking about some of the clubs being in relegation battles. You think they aren't fighting as hard as possible for every single point?

Some of the cup games matter (not sure 30 mins against Burton at 5-0 matters) but there's also the fact that we can put out 10 world class players and a kid and know that we can still beat every League 1 & Championship side, which is a massive luxury other clubs don't have.

In the end, developing at a top club like City and developing at a mid-table club is completely different and the arguments have to be more nuanced than "Player 1 has X minutes while Player 2 has Y minutes".

One thing seems to be true though in the end, that an increasing number of our best kids don't think this is the place to become a senior player.

 

[aguero93:20]

Again "City are expected to win every game with something to spare and nothing else is good enough." is a bullshit argument when you're talking about some of the clubs being in relegation battles. You think they aren't fighting as hard as possible for every single point?

Some of the cup games matter (not sure 30 mins against Burton at 5-0 matters) but there's also the fact that we can put out 10 world class players and a kid and know that we can still beat every League 1 & Championship side, which is a massive luxury other clubs don't have.

In the end, developing at a top club like City and developing at a mid-table club is completely different and the arguments have to be more nuanced than "Player 1 has X minutes while Player 2 has Y minutes".

Fighting as hard as possible for points doesn't mean getting held to the same standard if they fail to deliver them.

 

[domalino]

Fighting as hard as possible for points doesn't mean getting held to the same standard if they fail to deliver them.

Sorry but if you're seriously going to try and argue that relegation isn't a bigger disaster for clubs involved than not winning a title then you're being willfully ignorant. Relegation means people losing jobs, players salaries being halved, potentially long lasting financial problems and £100m a year in lost revenue. If we lose the league title it might be a disappointing season, depending on how we do in the other 3 competition, a few players fringe players might get replaced if we go on a spending spree. It's not a disaster.

The stakes at play for a manager in a relegation fight are just as high as someone chasing a title.

 

[aguero93:20]

Sorry but if you're seriously going to try and argue that relegation isn't a bigger disaster for clubs involved than not winning a title then you're being willfully ignorant. Relegation means people losing jobs, players salaries being halved, potentially long lasting financial problems and £100m a year in lost revenue. If we lose the league title it might be a disappointing season, depending on how we do in the other 3 competition, a few players fringe players might get replaced if we go on a spending spree. It's not a disaster.

The stakes at play for a manager in a relegation fight are just as high as someone chasing a title.

Yes mate, relegation is a big thing. You're still not held to the same standards at Burnley or Southampton as you are at City.

 

[domalino]

Yes mate, relegation is a big thing. You're still not held to the same standards at Burnley or Southampton as you are at City.

Which is completely irrelevant. You've also not got 10 world class teammates next to you, or the best coach in the world.

 

[aguero93:20]

Which is completely irrelevant. You've also not got 10 world class teammates next to you, or the best coach in the world.

It's not completely irrelevant, have a poor game at City you'll stick out like a sore thumb, have the same game for Burnley you're in for a shout of the MOTM award.

 

[blue by birth]

Which is completely irrelevant. You've also not got 10 world class teammates next to you, or the best coach in the world.

Are you saying you don't think Dyche is the best coach in the world ....

 

[domalino]

It's not completely irrelevant, have a poor game at City you'll stick out like a sore thumb, have the same game for Burnley you're in for a shout of the MOTM award.

Have a poor game for City and we win 2-0. have a poor game for Burnley and you lose 2-0.

 

[aguero93:20]

Have a poor game for City and we win 2-0. have a poor game for Burnley and you lose 2-0.

Or we draw or lose and you're singled out.

 

[domalino]

Or we draw or lose and you're singled out.

When has that ever happened? Provide a single example and it might be a halfway decent point.