Radamel Falcao Zarate

Train said:
Not really what we need as good as he is. Even if we sold one of Mario or Dzeko, just replace them with guidetti.

I'm more worried about our midfield tbh. Barry has two or so years left in his engine, Rodwell is inexperienced, & Milner can't dictate/ or keep the game flowing the same way that Barry does.

Imo, our midfield isn't as strong as we make it out to be.

Yaya is a beast though.

So if we sold Dzeko or Balotelli you would rather replace them with Guidetti than Falcao?
 
Stoned Rose said:
Train said:
Not really what we need as good as he is. Even if we sold one of Mario or Dzeko, just replace them with guidetti.

I'm more worried about our midfield tbh. Barry has two or so years left in his engine, Rodwell is inexperienced, & Milner can't dictate/ or keep the game flowing the same way that Barry does.

Imo, our midfield isn't as strong as we make it out to be.

Yaya is a beast though.

So if we sold Dzeko or Balotelli you would rather replace them with Guidetti than Falcao?
I think what he's trying to say is that there are more pressing issues in the team that need addressing than to be blowing £50m on another striker, especially when we have a very promising prospect in Guidetti (whose chances would only decrease even further if Dzeko or Mario were shipped out and Falcao brought in).

Is that concept so hard to understand on here?
 
ElKun said:
Stoned Rose said:
Train said:
Not really what we need as good as he is. Even if we sold one of Mario or Dzeko, just replace them with guidetti.

I'm more worried about our midfield tbh. Barry has two or so years left in his engine, Rodwell is inexperienced, & Milner can't dictate/ or keep the game flowing the same way that Barry does.

Imo, our midfield isn't as strong as we make it out to be.

Yaya is a beast though.

So if we sold Dzeko or Balotelli you would rather replace them with Guidetti than Falcao?
I think what he's trying to say is that there are more pressing issues in the team that need addressing than to be blowing £50m on another striker, especially when we have a very promising prospect in Guidetti (whose chances would only decrease even further if Dzeko or Mario were shipped out and Falcao brought in).

Is that concept so hard to understand on here?

I understood the rest of his point and actually agree with it.

The bit I highlighted in italics was the bit I disagreed with. Hence me commenting on that bit and saying fuck all about the other bit.

Is that concept so hard for you to understand?

The fact that a fellow blue would rather have Guidetti over Falcao needs questioning dont you think?
 
Stoned Rose said:
ElKun said:
Stoned Rose said:
So if we sold Dzeko or Balotelli you would rather replace them with Guidetti than Falcao?
I think what he's trying to say is that there are more pressing issues in the team that need addressing than to be blowing £50m on another striker, especially when we have a very promising prospect in Guidetti (whose chances would only decrease even further if Dzeko or Mario were shipped out and Falcao brought in).

Is that concept so hard to understand on here?

I understood the rest of his point and actually agree with it.

The bit I highlighted in italics was the bit I disagreed with. Hence me commenting on that bit and saying fuck all about the other bit.

Is that concept so hard for you to understand?

The fact that a fellow blue would rather have Guidetti over Falcao needs questioning dont you think?

Imo, our attack is potent enough even with the departure of one striker. Having 4 class strikers is unnecessary & only causes disharmony amongst the group. The only way i would consider buying Falcao, is if we let 2 of our strikers go.

Its not a matter of choosing Guidetti over Falcao. Its being realistic & looking at the situation at hand & our needs. Falcao is an excess not a priority.
 
Train said:
Stoned Rose said:
ElKun said:
I think what he's trying to say is that there are more pressing issues in the team that need addressing than to be blowing £50m on another striker, especially when we have a very promising prospect in Guidetti (whose chances would only decrease even further if Dzeko or Mario were shipped out and Falcao brought in).

Is that concept so hard to understand on here?

I understood the rest of his point and actually agree with it.

The bit I highlighted in italics was the bit I disagreed with. Hence me commenting on that bit and saying fuck all about the other bit.

Is that concept so hard for you to understand?

The fact that a fellow blue would rather have Guidetti over Falcao needs questioning dont you think?

Imo, our attack is potent enough even with the departure of one striker. Having 4 class strikers is unnecessary & only causes disharmony amongst the group. The only way i would consider buying Falcao, is if we let 2 of our strikers go.

Its not a matter of choosing Guidetti over Falcao. Its being realistic & looking at the situation at hand & our needs. Falcao is an excess not a priority.

Having 4 class strikers is unnecessary & only causes disharmony amongst the group

example?
 
Stoned Rose said:
Train said:
Stoned Rose said:
I understood the rest of his point and actually agree with it.

The bit I highlighted in italics was the bit I disagreed with. Hence me commenting on that bit and saying fuck all about the other bit.

Is that concept so hard for you to understand?

The fact that a fellow blue would rather have Guidetti over Falcao needs questioning dont you think?

Imo, our attack is potent enough even with the departure of one striker. Having 4 class strikers is unnecessary & only causes disharmony amongst the group. The only way i would consider buying Falcao, is if we let 2 of our strikers go.

Its not a matter of choosing Guidetti over Falcao. Its being realistic & looking at the situation at hand & our needs. Falcao is an excess not a priority.

Having 4 class strikers is unnecessary & only causes disharmony amongst the group

example?

What i mean is 'if' we incorporate Falcao in at the expense of Dzeko or Mario. I doubt Mario really cares if he plays...yet, but i have no doubts that it affects Dzeko. Imagine how he would feel if Mario were sold only for Falcao to be his replacement. Suddenly you have 3 world class players who are basically untouchables, Sergio Aguero, Tevez & Falcao. Where does that leave the 4th player?

Falcao i'm sure would also expect to play most games as will Tevez & Dzeko.
 
Stoned Rose said:
Train said:
Stoned Rose said:
I understood the rest of his point and actually agree with it.

The bit I highlighted in italics was the bit I disagreed with. Hence me commenting on that bit and saying fuck all about the other bit.

Is that concept so hard for you to understand?

The fact that a fellow blue would rather have Guidetti over Falcao needs questioning dont you think?

Imo, our attack is potent enough even with the departure of one striker. Having 4 class strikers is unnecessary & only causes disharmony amongst the group. The only way i would consider buying Falcao, is if we let 2 of our strikers go.

Its not a matter of choosing Guidetti over Falcao. Its being realistic & looking at the situation at hand & our needs. Falcao is an excess not a priority.

Having 4 class strikers is unnecessary & only causes disharmony amongst the group

example?


Cole and Sheringham still hate each others guts.
 
Kun Aguero said:
Stoned Rose said:
Train said:
Imo, our attack is potent enough even with the departure of one striker. Having 4 class strikers is unnecessary & only causes disharmony amongst the group. The only way i would consider buying Falcao, is if we let 2 of our strikers go.

Its not a matter of choosing Guidetti over Falcao. Its being realistic & looking at the situation at hand & our needs. Falcao is an excess not a priority.

Having 4 class strikers is unnecessary & only causes disharmony amongst the group

example?


Cole and Sheringham still hate each others guts.

That's a poor example. They hated each other for off the pitch reasons, they still had a very good partnership on it.
 
I hope our strikeforce at the start of next season is Falcao, Aguero, Dzeko and Guidetti.

Falcao is the world's best striker, we would be mad not to go for him if he's available. If we don't sign him to carry on with this Balotelli project hoping he'll turn world class, I'll be gutted. Tevez hasn't got that long left either. I don't really see Aguero as a number 9 either if I'm honest. There's a reason why Mancini wanted RVP so desperately in the summer.
 
CityFan94 said:
I hope our strikeforce at the start of next season is Falcao, Aguero, Dzeko and Guidetti.

Falcao is the world's best striker, we would be mad not to go for him if he's available. If we don't sign him to carry on with this Balotelli project hoping he'll turn world class, I'll be gutted. Tevez hasn't got that long left either. I don't really see Aguero as a number 9 either if I'm honest. There's a reason why Mancini wanted RVP so desperately in the summer.

Have a feeling mario will be heading back to italy at the end of the season and tevez will be heading off to argentina for a reasonable price (think he'll only have a year left on his contract then).

A four of Aguero, Falcao, Dzeko and Guidetti sounds good to me.

sam-caddick said:
Train said:
Not really what we need as good as he is. Even if we sold one of Mario or Dzeko, just replace them with guidetti.

I'm more worried about our midfield tbh. Barry has two or so years left in his engine, Rodwell is inexperienced, & Milner can't dictate/ or keep the game flowing the same way that Barry does.

Imo, our midfield isn't as strong as we make it out to be.

Yaya is a beast though.

Completely agree, whilst is very nice shopping for strikers we have something glaring at us that is clearly our downfall, and especially at Chamions League level, and that is our midfield.

We need another Yaya quality player next to Yaya.

Agree with this as well though. I think Garcia was a good signing, and will get better but i don't think barry or rodwell are the answer for european games. When garcia went off against dortmund yaya had to do everything in the middle almost single handed. For me the CM is still our problem position.
 
CityFan94 said:
I hope our strikeforce at the start of next season is Falcao, Aguero, Dzeko and Guidetti.

This would be really ideal and seems like common sense as we'd sell two high quality strikers (Mario and Dzeko) to mostly fund signing an even higher quality striker and the ruthless goalscorer we still lack (Falcao) while blooding in the academy gem at no cost in a role that does not and never has IMO warrant a 'superstar' name (4th striker - possibly rising to 3rd striker after Tevez goes if he impresses enough). I'd be very sad to see the affable Dzeko go but if it meant getting Falcao in it would be worth it. But all that said, this scenario probably won't happen as the coaching staff and fans usually have much different ideas.
 
LoveCity said:
CityFan94 said:
I hope our strikeforce at the start of next season is Falcao, Aguero, Dzeko and Guidetti.

This would be really ideal and seems like common sense as we'd sell two high quality strikers (Mario and Dzeko) to mostly fund signing an even higher quality striker and the ruthless goalscorer we still lack (Falcao) while blooding in the academy gem at no cost in a role that does not and never has IMO warrant a 'superstar' name (4th striker - possibly rising to 3rd striker after Tevez goes if he impresses enough). I'd be very sad to see the affable Dzeko go but if it meant getting Falcao in it would be worth it. But all that said, this scenario probably won't happen as the coaching staff and fans usually have much different ideas.



Sorry.
 
Yeah, I read that as Tevez in the four he named. Tevez won't be going anywhere next summer, even PSG balked at his wages so we simply won't be selling him and he's a lock to run down his contract at least, meaning Dzeko would be more likely to go if we offloaded two to buy Falcao.
 
LoveCity said:
Yeah, I read that as Tevez in the four he named. Tevez won't be going anywhere next summer, even PSG balked at his wages so we simply won't be selling him and he's a lock to run down his contract at least, meaning Dzeko would be more likely to go if we offloaded two to buy Falcao.
To bring in Falcao, 2 of our strikers have to go. I hope it is not Dzeko. Just like him as a person. And his ability to come thru when needed is often overshadowed by his sometime poor play. Which by the way, there hasn't been many of this season. SO perhaps he is finally clicking.

It seems everyone is certain about Aguero and down on Balo, so we have one certain for staying and the other leaving. Now the question is who is the 2nd? Tevez or Dzeko.

Forwards
Aguero, Dzeko, Tevez, Guidetti
Attacking mids
Silva, Yaya, Nasri, ?
Center Mids
Garcia, Milner, Barry, Rodwell
Central Defense
Kompany, Nastasic, Lescott, ?
Leftback
Clichy, Kolarov
Right Back
Micah, Zaba
Goalie
Hart,Pantilimon,Taylor

This leaves us with 2 spots to fill:

My choices:
Jovetic, Valiente,
 
Radamel Falcao is a player who could make a difference to Manchester City and may be their top target in January, according to the club's chief scout.

Falcao has enhanced his reputation as one of the finest strikers in world football since joining Atletico Madrid in the summer of 2011 and is reportedly now being coveted by a number of clubs.

While Atletico insist they have no intention of selling the Colombian in the New Year and are confident he will stay, Manchester City chief scout Carlo Cancellieri has indicated that he would like to see a deal done.

Cancellieri believes City should prioritise a move for Falcao over their pursuit of other reported targets, such as Stevan Jovetic of Fiorentina, as there are very few players capable of improving the current squad.

Asked about Jovetic, Cancellieri told tuttomercatoweb.com: "He is an interesting player, he has quality. But in attack City are already good, we're happy with Tevez, Aguero and Balotelli.

"Moreover, I believe that our players are better than Jovetic. He is a very good player, but he is not one who could make a difference such as Falcao.

"I spoke about him in recent days with (Roberto) Mancini. If we were to take a player in January, we should take Falcao.

"He is an important player, the only one who could make us take the leap."

Cancellieri also declared that City were admirers of two Spanish World Cup-winners, but admitted they were unlikely to leave Barcelona.

He said: "A midfielder? We like Busquets and Fabregas a lot, but Barcelona don't want to give these two players."

<a class="postlink" href="http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11679/8179453" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11679/8179453</a>
 
LoveCity said:
Radamel Falcao is a player who could make a difference to Manchester City and may be their top target in January, according to the club's chief scout.

Falcao has enhanced his reputation as one of the finest strikers in world football since joining Atletico Madrid in the summer of 2011 and is reportedly now being coveted by a number of clubs.

While Atletico insist they have no intention of selling the Colombian in the New Year and are confident he will stay, Manchester City chief scout Carlo Cancellieri has indicated that he would like to see a deal done.

Cancellieri believes City should prioritise a move for Falcao over their pursuit of other reported targets, such as Stevan Jovetic of Fiorentina, as there are very few players capable of improving the current squad.

Asked about Jovetic, Cancellieri told tuttomercatoweb.com: "He is an interesting player, he has quality. But in attack City are already good, we're happy with Tevez, Aguero and Balotelli.

"Moreover, I believe that our players are better than Jovetic. He is a very good player, but he is not one who could make a difference such as Falcao.

"I spoke about him in recent days with (Roberto) Mancini. If we were to take a player in January, we should take Falcao.

"He is an important player, the only one who could make us take the leap."

Cancellieri also declared that City were admirers of two Spanish World Cup-winners, but admitted they were unlikely to leave Barcelona.

He said: "A midfielder? We like Busquets and Fabregas a lot, but Barcelona don't want to give these two players."

<a class="postlink" href="http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11679/8179453" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11679/8179453</a>

No mention of Dzeko in there.
 
grunge said:
LoveCity said:
Radamel Falcao is a player who could make a difference to Manchester City and may be their top target in January, according to the club's chief scout.

Falcao has enhanced his reputation as one of the finest strikers in world football since joining Atletico Madrid in the summer of 2011 and is reportedly now being coveted by a number of clubs.

While Atletico insist they have no intention of selling the Colombian in the New Year and are confident he will stay, Manchester City chief scout Carlo Cancellieri has indicated that he would like to see a deal done.

Cancellieri believes City should prioritise a move for Falcao over their pursuit of other reported targets, such as Stevan Jovetic of Fiorentina, as there are very few players capable of improving the current squad.

Asked about Jovetic, Cancellieri told tuttomercatoweb.com: "He is an interesting player, he has quality. But in attack City are already good, we're happy with Tevez, Aguero and Balotelli.

"Moreover, I believe that our players are better than Jovetic. He is a very good player, but he is not one who could make a difference such as Falcao.

"I spoke about him in recent days with (Roberto) Mancini. If we were to take a player in January, we should take Falcao.

"He is an important player, the only one who could make us take the leap."

Cancellieri also declared that City were admirers of two Spanish World Cup-winners, but admitted they were unlikely to leave Barcelona.

He said: "A midfielder? We like Busquets and Fabregas a lot, but Barcelona don't want to give these two players."

<a class="postlink" href="http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11679/8179453" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11679/8179453</a>

No mention of Dzeko in there.

I noticed that also. Not sure if it means anything though.
 

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