Rafeal

[bluethai]

POLL's view on Rooney

GRAHAM POLL: Wayne Rooney should have gone off with Rafael - I wish I'd sent him off in 2005

Mike Dean had no option but to show Rafael da Silva his second yellow card and dismiss him on Sunday at White Hart Lane - and the independent assessor would have been highly critical had he not done so.

Rafael has, rightly in my view, been charged by the FA with improper conduct for his outburst following his red card. The Brazilian has until 6pm on Tuesday to respond.

In the tunnel after the 0-0 draw, Sir Alex Ferguson let Dean know he felt the dismissal was harsh and believed that Rafael's immaturity should have been taken into consideration. Really? Well, the laws of the game do not allow a referee to take a player's age into account and nor should they.

Manchester United and Ferguson should count themselves lucky that they finished the game with 10 men. If the law had been applied on Sunday as it is written - and I believe it should be - Wayne Rooney and Nemanja Vidic should have been taking early baths along with the 20-year-old.

These ugly and clear displays of dissent highlighted that the FA's Respect programme has had little effect.

Rafael received his first yellow for a lunging tackle on Wilson Palacios. The same two players clashed again later and the Brazilian really should have received a second caution for his reaction in brandishing an imaginary card to ensure Palacios was booked.

Dean will reflect when reviewing the video that had he seen Rafael's gesture clearly, he would have sent him off with a second caution.

Rafael was eventually given his marching orders after being caught out of position and made to chase Benoit Assou-Ekotto down the touchline.

In such cases the duty of care lies with the pursuer. So the contact made, however minimal, must be seen as unsporting, leaving Dean with no option but to send Rafael off.

Rooney's reaction was appalling: shouting in Dean's face and using foul language seen by all TV viewers. When you are in such a situation, having already sent one player off, you just try to calm things down.

During United's 4-2 win at Arsenal in February 2005, Rooney infamously swore at me 27 times in the first half alone. Yet I considered my performance in that match to be the finest in all of my 329 Premier League games.

Only now, having stepped away from refereeing, do I realise the damage I may have caused to the game in not sending Rooney off.

Dean was eventually forced to caution Rooney on Sunday as he persistently berated the official. But until the FA take charge of referees and tell them to apply the law, such scenes will not be punished correctly and will occur again and again.

Until I stopped refereeing, I could not see the harm in allowing such blatant dissent to escape punishment. If the FA really want us to believe that their Respect programme is alive and making a difference then they need to change the advice which select group referees receive.

Proof that when players' foul tirades are not dealt with strongly, those players will continue to abuse officials, came in the 85th minute at White Hart Lane on Sunday. The assistant referee who correctly indicated an infringement by Vidic was abused by him.

He, too, should have been dismissed but a referee cannot act if not advised correctly by his assistant. So United continue on their unbeaten run and will only miss Rafael for one match, while Rooney and Vidic are free to berate and belittle match officials.

dailymail

 

[Vic]

POLL's view on Rooney

GRAHAM POLL: Wayne Rooney should have gone off with Rafael - I wish I'd sent him off in 2005

He, too, should have been dismissed but a referee cannot act if not advised correctly by his assistant.

dailymail

Well, that's nonsense. I've seen EPL refs caution players for having a fairly innocuous go at the assistant when they've put up with worse directed straight at them. (At least with no obvious indication that the AR wanted action against the player.) Again, it's the selectivity that causes the "bias" accusations.

 

[blueinsa]

Rooney will never get sent off or censured for this type of behaviour, along with the likes of Camelgob, Terry, Lampard etc etc.

Must do everything possible not to damage the team England brand.....

Watch how fast Balo would walk and the media frenzy and subsequent further ban if it was him mouthing off!

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Rooney will never get sent off or censured for this type of behaviour, along with the likes of Camelgob, Terry, Lampard etc etc.

Must do everything possible not to damage the team England brand.....

Watch how fast Balo would walk and the media frenzy and subsequent further ban if it was him mouthing off!

When is Balo not mouthing off, im surprised he has time to breathe sometimes

 

[blueinsa]

Rooney will never get sent off or censured for this type of behaviour, along with the likes of Camelgob, Terry, Lampard etc etc.

Must do everything possible not to damage the team England brand.....

Watch how fast Balo would walk and the media frenzy and subsequent further ban if it was him mouthing off!

When is Balo not mouthing off, im surprised he has time to breathe sometimes

He gets frustrated for sure but i can guarantee, you wont see him clearly mouthing off to the ref or lino, calling them fucking wankers etc unlike the usual suspects.

Dont forget, he got a card for waving his arm in the air at West Ham.

No problem with that as long as we see the same rule applied to everyone else.

 

[sugarwray]

deep down the lot of you know Rafael's was not a sending off....what Rooney did was just frustration but how does it affect anything?

Balotelli, Bellamy....i rest my case

 

[cleavers]

deep down the lot of you know Rafael's was not a sending off....what Rooney did was just frustration but how does it affect anything?

Balotelli, Bellamy....i rest my case

You can rest your fingers now as well, thanks for your contributions, but poster of the year you will not make.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

deep down the lot of you know Rafael's was not a sending off....what Rooney did was just frustration but how does it affect anything?

Balotelli, Bellamy....i rest my case

Thick as pig shit.

 

[mat]

POLL's view on Rooney

GRAHAM POLL: Wayne Rooney should have gone off with Rafael - I wish I'd sent him off in 2005

Mike Dean had no option but to show Rafael da Silva his second yellow card and dismiss him on Sunday at White Hart Lane - and the independent assessor would have been highly critical had he not done so.

Rafael has, rightly in my view, been charged by the FA with improper conduct for his outburst following his red card. The Brazilian has until 6pm on Tuesday to respond.

In the tunnel after the 0-0 draw, Sir Alex Ferguson let Dean know he felt the dismissal was harsh and believed that Rafael's immaturity should have been taken into consideration. Really? Well, the laws of the game do not allow a referee to take a player's age into account and nor should they.

Manchester United and Ferguson should count themselves lucky that they finished the game with 10 men. If the law had been applied on Sunday as it is written - and I believe it should be - Wayne Rooney and Nemanja Vidic should have been taking early baths along with the 20-year-old.

These ugly and clear displays of dissent highlighted that the FA's Respect programme has had little effect.

Rafael received his first yellow for a lunging tackle on Wilson Palacios. The same two players clashed again later and the Brazilian really should have received a second caution for his reaction in brandishing an imaginary card to ensure Palacios was booked.

Dean will reflect when reviewing the video that had he seen Rafael's gesture clearly, he would have sent him off with a second caution.

Rafael was eventually given his marching orders after being caught out of position and made to chase Benoit Assou-Ekotto down the touchline.

In such cases the duty of care lies with the pursuer. So the contact made, however minimal, must be seen as unsporting, leaving Dean with no option but to send Rafael off.

Rooney's reaction was appalling: shouting in Dean's face and using foul language seen by all TV viewers. When you are in such a situation, having already sent one player off, you just try to calm things down.

During United's 4-2 win at Arsenal in February 2005, Rooney infamously swore at me 27 times in the first half alone. Yet I considered my performance in that match to be the finest in all of my 329 Premier League games.

Only now, having stepped away from refereeing, do I realise the damage I may have caused to the game in not sending Rooney off.

Dean was eventually forced to caution Rooney on Sunday as he persistently berated the official. But until the FA take charge of referees and tell them to apply the law, such scenes will not be punished correctly and will occur again and again.

Until I stopped refereeing, I could not see the harm in allowing such blatant dissent to escape punishment. If the FA really want us to believe that their Respect programme is alive and making a difference then they need to change the advice which select group referees receive.

Proof that when players' foul tirades are not dealt with strongly, those players will continue to abuse officials, came in the 85th minute at White Hart Lane on Sunday. The assistant referee who correctly indicated an infringement by Vidic was abused by him.

He, too, should have been dismissed but a referee cannot act if not advised correctly by his assistant. So United continue on their unbeaten run and will only miss Rafael for one match, while Rooney and Vidic are free to berate and belittle match officials.

dailymail

Poll was so far up Taggarts arse he wouldn't have done anything to offend him. The fucking arsehole just wrote that to get some extra cash for himself.

 

[Garden Of Edin]

Just bumping this.

Fucking shocking tackle on Lucas, should be off. I thought Škrtel was going to break his jaw.